I just think it's politicking in NASCAR.
I just think it's politicking in NASCAR.
In the early 1990s, Penske's Indycar team was heavily associated with Chevrolet (Ilmor Chevy Indy V-8).
Meanwhile, Penske's Winston Cup team (Rusty Wallace) had Ford.
"Politicking"??? Dodge has zero teams to partner up with... all the potential big dogs are under contract.Originally Posted by Mikemat5150
JMO, but I hope they are pulling out of NASCAR & spending the $$$ on bringing back the Viper to ALMS/LM24/WEC + Grand Am's GT class!!!
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Halle-frickin-luja.
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And on a related note, I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
It's a Hoosier thing, you wouldn't understand...
Well... Maybe Chrysler to Indycar?
Here's a comment from Ralph Gilles Prez of the Dodge Motorsports division
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...ord-dodge-2013"Our motorsports involvement isn't limited to NASCAR. We do value our NASCAR program and will be evaluating the opportunities available moving forward," Gilles said. "As those opportunities materialize, we'll reveal our 2013 plans, not only in NASCAR but in other forms of motorsports."
Yes I know its very thin. But I'd like think of us as a bit better positioned on a world wide level than the cabs. And for all intents an purposes Dodge is a foreign label. We have no idea what Lotus is about, RB said its to late for 2013 for a new engine manufacturer but you never know.
I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has
Where'd the other thread go?
"If your car was a dog, then you had to figure it out and test your own limits. And we didn't go to a wind tunnel – we did it in the first turn at Indianapolis."
Jeez...there has already been one of these threads moved to the NASCAR forum.
There is also a fifteen year history of Ford clearly stating they want nothing to do with IMS or IndyCar.
Is it hot were you live?
They are going to race the New Viper that is suppose to be absolutely wicked.
You cannot wrangle chaos. You can only try to plan for it.
Dodge was about to unveil their 2013 Charger NASCAR Cup car in a few weeks in Vegas. AWKWARD.
It means nothing. The Ford engines have been very strong in Nascar and he probably feels they give his team a better chance to win. Has nothing to do with what he does in IndyCar.
I'm going to say not much....at all. I still hope to see Ford in the future, but as far as Penske switching to Ford in Nascar the two are completely separate.
Why would it be any different than 2002? He ran Fords in NASCAR and Chevy engines in IndyCar that year.
Not really. Rusty was running a Pontiac in the years Penske was running Chevy badged engines in open wheel. He switched to Ford in Cup the year after Chevy took the bow-tie off the valve covers.
But he did run Fords in Cup and Chevies in his IndyCar in 2002, so I don't see any difference now.
Its not as bitter, miserable, and downtrodden as where you live apparently
Well, there is now another one there now thanks to the move...If a thread has "NASCAR" in the title, it probably doesn't belong in the IndyCar forum.
For future reference
I find it odd to run Chevy in one and Ford in another but whatever.
Every race I run in is in preparation for the Indianapolis 500. Indy is the most important thing in my life. It is what I live for. - Al Unser Jr.
Everything I ever wanted in my life, I found inside the walls of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. - Eddie Sachs.
They had Pontiacs for a year or two before that though.
"Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang
"If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio
From what I can tell, just one people flipped out.
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Another thing that happens in NASCAR, it must mean something really good is coming to IC
To answer: NOTHING.
So now that Penske has jumped ship from Dodge to Ford on the cup side beginning next year I wonder if he can bring them into INDYCAR or if he'll stick with Chevy in 2013?
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Yeah I'm sure Roger Penske would spend thousands of hours of time, money, etc getting
(1) GM to return INDYCAR,
(2) Have his own ILMOR Engineering company build the engines,
(3) secure Chevrolet as the main sponsor of his Detroit GP & then just scrap all those plans to jump over to neighboring Dearnborn, MI to get Ford power into his 2013 Dallara racecars!!! Please, think rationally before posting here @TF!!!
Then there were two that weren't visible when I started one or I wouldn't have. So I would have posted this
I would say that's the end for Dodge in NASCAR since Penske did the bulk of the engine and aero work. The only operation that could switch to Dodge and do that engineering would be Gibbs. They have changed brands over the years from Pontiac to Chevy to Toyota so it's not out of the question and they could think being alone with Dodge might give them an edge. Not sure that Toyota would give them up easily because I think that would leave Michael Waltrip Racing as their lead team.
But if Dodge were to leave NASCAR I guess the question would be, could that lead that brand or another in the Fiat umbrella to come to INDYCAR?
here instead.
Not being overly critical but I don't think people understand what jayski does. Those stories you see on that site aren't jayski knocking on doors and creating stories. There is a (autoweek) (3-1-12) at the end of the paragraph because that was the source of the entry on jayski, All the stories have that. They compile stories from various sources that have already run with that story and give links to those sources. Tom Jensen having been around a long time probably has enough connections to find out things early.Oh well... now SPEED's Tom Jenson has posted the same thing... however if Jayski & Jenson are piggy-backing the Autoweek story
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"They're criminals"
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Maybe--like the Autoextremist--he doesn't like Marchionne either.
I'd like to see a FIAT 500 running in Sprint Cup.
Had Juan been driving that the jet dryer would have just blown it down the track I betcha.I'd like to see a FIAT 500 running in Sprint Cup.
It would be an improvement on what they're running now, at least.I'd like to see a FIAT 500 running in Sprint Cup.
Interesting that Chrysler hung in there through the recession and now that the car biz has picked up may be exiting.
You used to need 750hp to win the Indy 500, now you get that much in a Corvette and you get a factory warranty....Jay Leno
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