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    Championship scenarios in Fontana?

    Has anyone (or IndyCar) posted the championship scenarios for Fontana between Helio and Dixon yet? Seems like with a 25 pt gap Helio would have to win and have Dixon finish outside of the top 5 but curious as to the cascading point scenarios.

    Too lazy to go figure out the math myself.

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    Just replied to this in another thread. If Dixon finishes 5th or better he is champ regardless of where #3 finishes. After that a million scenarios but #3 needs to win. Of course if dixon had a DNF it changes pretty quickly, then wouldn't the #3 have to finish 3rd or better? Tie goes to Dixon because of wins

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    How points are awarded:

    1st = 50 points
    2nd = 40 points
    3rd = 35 points
    4th = 32 points
    5th = 30 points
    6th = 28 points
    7th = 26 points
    8th = 24 points
    9th = 22 points
    10th = 20 points
    11th = 19 points
    12th = 18 points
    13th = 17 points
    14th = 16 points
    15th = 15 points
    16th = 14 points
    17th = 13 points
    18th-24th = 12 points
    25th-26th = 10 points
    1 bonus point for winning pole
    2 bonus points for leading the most laps.
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    David, you copied last year's points system. This is the 2013 one:

    Position 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
    Race Points 50 40 35 32 30 28 26 24 22 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICS001 View Post
    David, you copied last year's points system. This is the 2013 one:

    Position 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
    Race Points 50 40 35 32 30 28 26 24 22 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5
    Thanks! I did not know they changed. Are the bonus points the same or have they changed too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidM View Post
    Thanks! I did not know they changed. Are the bonus points the same or have they changed too?
    Bonus points are the same as 2012.

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    They added one bonus point for any driver who leads a lap this year. The two for most laps led are then on top of that.

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    Did some figuring the other day. With no bonus points to either Helio needs to win and have Dixon finish 8th or worse, If 2nd, 16th or worse, 3rd, 21st or worse, 4th, 24th or worse.

    With 1 bonus point to Helio and none to Dixon it changes a little bit with Helio 2nd, Dixon would have to 15th or worse. 3rd, 20th or worse, 4th, 21st or worse. Stays the same if he's first from earlier.

    If Helio gets 2 bonus points and Wins, Dixon would have tobe 7th or worse, 2nd, 14th or worse, 3rd, 19th or worse, 4th 22nd or worse.

    3 bonus points to Helio and a win, Dixon would have to be 7th or worse, 2nd, 13th or worse, 3rd, 18th or worse, 4th, 21st or worse, 5th, 23rd or worse.

    and if Helio gets all 4 possible bonus points and wins, Dixon would have to finish 6th or worse, 2nd, 12th or worse, 3rd, 17th or worse, 4th, 2oth or worse, 5th, 22nd or worse.

    I factored this when thinking there would be 24 entries for this race. As of now there's 25, so it may change a little.

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    Max points is 54 - 50 for winning, 1 for pole, 1 for leading a lap, and 2 for leading the most laps.

    Current Points

    Dixon 546
    Helio 521

    WHAT IF's:

    Dixon finishes ahead of Helio...Obviously, he wins.

    If Helio Wins:
    Point total = 572

    Dixon would need to finish 8th or worse IF he doesn't collect ANY bonus points.

    If Helio Wins and Gets the pole
    Point Total = 573

    If Helio Wins, Gets the pole, Leads a lap and leads the most laps
    Point total = 575

    If Helio finishes and Dixon scores no bonus points:
    1st (572) – Dixon (570) needs to finish 8th or worse
    2nd (561) – Dixon (560) needs to finish 16th or worse
    3rd (556) - Dixon (555) needs to finish 21st or worse
    4th (553) - Dixon (552) needs to finish 24th or worse
    5th - Can win from 5th, but needs a bonus point for pole, leading a lap or leading most laps and needs Dixon to finish 25th (Might not be possible if 25 cars aren't entered) In this case, if Helio leads the most laps, Dixon would need to finish 24th or worse.


    If Helio wins the pole or leads a lap:
    1st (573) – Dixon (572) needs to finish 7th or worse (If Dixon gets any bonus point at all, this goes to 8th)
    2nd (562) – Dixon (561) needs to finish 15th or worse (16th if he gets a single bonus point)
    3rd (557) – Dixon (556) needs to finish 20th or worse (21st if he gets a single bonus point)
    4th (554) – Dixon (553) needs to finish 23rd or worse (24th if he gets a single bonus point)
    5th (552) – Dixon needs to finish 25th or worse (if possible) and get no bonus point

    If Helio leads the most laps:
    1st (574) – Dixon (572 or 573) needs to finish 7th or worse (Dixon can get a single bonus point and still finish 7th)
    2nd (564) – Dixon (563) needs to finish 13th or worse (14th if he gets a single bonus point, 15th if he gets 2)
    3rd (559) – Dixon (558) needs to finish 18th or worse (19th if he gets a single bonus point or 20th if he gets 2)
    4th (556) – Dixon (555) needs to finish 21st or worse (22nd if he gets a single bonus point, 23rd if he gets 2)
    5th (554) – Dixon needs to finish 23rd or worse (24th if he gets a single bonus point, 25th (If Possible) if he gets 2)

    IF Helio Wins the pole and leads the most laps:
    1st (575) – Dixon (574) needs to finish 6th or worse (7th if he leads a lap or wins the pole, 7th if he leads a lap and wins the pole, (8th if he does any of the above and leads the most laps)
    2nd (564) - Dixion (563) needs to finish 13th or worse (14th if he leads a lap or wins the pole, 15th he leads a lap and wins the pole)
    3rd (559) – Dixon (558) needs to finish 18th or worse (19th if he leads a lap or wins the pole, 20th if he leads a lap and wins the pole)
    4th (556) - Dixon (555) needs to finish 21st or worse (22nd if he leads a lap or wins the pole, 23rd if he leads a lap and wins the pole)
    5th (554) – Dixon (553) needs to finish 23rd or worse (24th if he leads a lap or wins the pole, 25th (If possible) if he does both)

    IF Dixon gets bonus points

    If Dixon Wins the pole or leads a lap and Helio finishes:
    1st (572) – Dixon (571) needs to finish 8th or worse)
    2nd (561) – Dixon (560) needs to finish 17th or worse
    3rd (556) - Dixon (555) needs to finish 22nd or worse
    4th (553) - Dixon (552) needs to finish 25th or worse (If Possible)

    If Dixon Wins the pole & Leads a lap and Helio finishes:
    1st (572) – Dixon (569) needs to finish 9th or worse
    2nd (561) – Dixon (560) needs to finish 18th or worse
    3rd (556) - Dixon (555) needs to finish 23rd or worse

    If Dixon Wins the pole and leads the most laps and Helio finishes:
    1st (572) – Dixon (571) needs to finish 9th or worse
    2nd (561) – Dixon (560) needs to finish 19th or worse
    3rd (556) - Dixon (555) needs to finish 24th or worse
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    Nice work there Mearsfan.

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    Pardon me while I go off to make my head stop spinning. So many numbers; so many scenarios.

    So in simple terms,, Helio needs to win the race and Scott needs to have a bad day for Helio to win the title; Scott pretty much needs to to just finish the race and he'll win the title regardless of what Helio does. *sighs*

    Now I'm annoyed again about the races Helio should've won (St. Pete comes to mind).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Paige14 View Post
    Pardon me while I go off to make my head stop spinning. So many numbers; so many scenarios.

    So in simple terms,, Helio needs to win the race and Scott needs to have a bad day for Helio to win the title; Scott pretty much needs to to just finish the race and he'll win the title regardless of what Helio does. *sighs*

    Now I'm annoyed again about the races Helio should've won (St. Pete comes to mind).
    No, its not that simple if Helio wins with bonus points...Scott can finish 6th (Far from a bad day) and win the championship. This is far from over. The only thing that is firm is Helio has to finish ahead of Scott to win.

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