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    What do you think of Butler's seed? Too high? Just right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    What do you think of Butler's seed? Too high? Just right?
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    So, anyway, back to the non-IU portion of the thread.

    According to ESPN's Bracketology, the #1 seeds today would be Villanova, Baylor, Gonzaga, and Kansas.

    Butler would be #3, Purdue #4, and Notre Dame #5.

    Northwestern would be #7.
    Butler seed is a little high, IMO. But, they have the resume to-date. They still have 4 tough road games. If they finish top 3 in league and win a Big East Championship game (haven't yet), then maybe a 3 seed. But I see them settling at a 4, no lower than a 6.
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    Yeah, #3 seems a little high. Sagarin has them at #19 in the country, which is about a #5 seed. They do have the #8 hardest schedule played in all of basketball though; the only teams ranked ahead of them by Sagarin who have played a harder schedule are Louisville and Baylor. Butler is 4-1 against Sagarin's top 25 and 9-1 against the top 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    Yeah, #3 seems a little high. Sagarin has them at #19 in the country, which is about a #5 seed. They do have the #8 hardest schedule played in all of basketball though; the only teams ranked ahead of them by Sagarin who have played a harder schedule are Louisville and Baylor. Butler is 4-1 against Sagarin's top 25 and 9-1 against the top 50.
    I really thought IU win would be a great resume type of win, but the more season goes on the more it doesn't seem that way.

    Butler did catch Arizona and Utah at the right time. Arizona was without a few key players and Utah as well. It is what is.

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    2) Alabama-Birmingham and Lousiana Tech had a brawl. Due to the "if you get off the bench and set one foot on the court, you get automatically ejected" rule, Louisiana Tech had to finish the final 6 minutes of the game without a full team on the court. UAB was playing 5 on 4 and still managed to get outscored for those 6 minutes!
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    Butler seed is a little high, IMO. But, they have the resume to-date. They still have 4 tough road games. If they finish top 3 in league and win a Big East Championship game (haven't yet), then maybe a 3 seed. But I see them settling at a 4, no lower than a 6.
    Like I said. Two really bad performances @ home and it appears the wheels are starting to fall off a bit. My guess, 21-9 to finish the regular season, 4th or 5th in BE, lose in BE tourney (haven't won a game yet) and get a 6 or 7 seed.

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    Despite the questionable ruling at the end, big win for Purdue at 20-2 Maryland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    Yeah, #3 seems a little high. Sagarin has them at #19 in the country, which is about a #5 seed. They do have the #8 hardest schedule played in all of basketball though; the only teams ranked ahead of them by Sagarin who have played a harder schedule are Louisville and Baylor. Butler is 4-1 against Sagarin's top 25 and 9-1 against the top 50.
    And now Butler is where they probably belong now at ESPN Bracketology, at a #6 seed.

    Purdue seems low at #6, even before today's win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    And now Butler is where they probably belong now at ESPN Bracketology, at a #6 seed.

    Purdue seems low at #6, even before today's win.
    A lot losses for the top 10 over the weekend. Seth Davis still had Butler as a #3 in the west region.

    I think Butler overachieved a little bit in the non-conference schedule and first part of Big East.

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    Excellent game in Bloomington tonight between IU & Purdue. A ton of emotion and intensity from both teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    And now Butler is where they probably belong now at ESPN Bracketology, at a #6 seed.
    The NCAA Tournament Committee has them as a #4 seed.


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    Butler would beat Baylor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodneyh View Post
    The NCAA Tournament Committee has them as a #4 seed.
    ...ahead of Purdue. As a big fan of both teams equally, I have a hard time putting Butler ahead of Purdue.

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    How is Wisconsin not on this list?

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    If the sweet 16 looks like that, I think it would be Villanova beating North Carolina for the national title.

    By the way, is a winning (or at least .500) record required to for an NIT bid? I'm beginning to worry about Ohio State's eligibility.
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    If Lunardi is saying that 7 B1G teams make the tourney, What does IU need to do (and have others do) to make the tourney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyCarFan100 View Post
    If Lunardi is saying that 7 B1G teams make the tourney, What does IU need to do (and have others do) to make the tourney?

    25 points in the first half, making up 10 and hholding Michigan scoreless with 1:45 to go is an impossible task.

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    What does IU need to do (and have others do) to make the tourney?
    Beating someone half-way decent for the first time in 2 months would be a good starter for IU.

    IU has the looks of a team that is done. Purdue was their last gasp and now the air is out of the balloon.

    Purdue, Notre Dame, Butler, Valpo and maybe IPFW (if they win their league) represent Indiana in the tourney this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrankShaft View Post
    Purdue, Notre Dame, Butler, Valpo and maybe IPFW (if they win their league) represent Indiana in the tourney this year.
    IPFW is tanking in recent weeks. Valpo will need to win their tourney, but they are certainly one of the favorites to do so.

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    When IU was good they were off-limits on this thread.

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    I was ready to make a move once the Crean arguments started again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    When IU was good they were off-limits on this thread.
    They're in the "bad loss" column for Kansas and UNC for sure.

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    I guess Northwestern is the real deal?

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    Butler has some real issues right now. Definitely not the same team that beat Northwestern (yes, Northwestern), Arizona, Utah, UC, IU and Villanova earlier this year. That's what the #4 seed is riding on right now.

    I think Butler ends up at a 5 or 6 seed before it's all said and done. For the first time in a long time, Butler might be a one and done in the NCAA tourney this year. Again, they have real issues defensively and offense is stagnant for long periods of time during games. Holt is still playing around starting lineups and essentially benching their "best" player of Kelan Martin to take pressure off him. A real mess.

    I'm not sure Holtmann would be a "no-brainer" for the IU job if IU was looking. Butler has essentially turned into "IU light" for the past 1.5 months.

    Conversely, maybe Butler just over-achieved in November, December and first of January? Water eventually finds it level. The Big East is a grind and Butler is still talent and athletic deficient compared to other teams in the conference.

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    Butler would beat Baylor.
    No way. Maybe the Butler 1.5 months ago, but not the current Butler. Real issues going on. IMO, they peaked too early. It will be a moot point because I think Butler will end up at a 5 or 6 seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    I guess Northwestern is the real deal?
    I think they are, though the Badgers have been riding the line for awhile and this was an obvious place for them to fall down (at least to some of us). Every year they seem to have a period of adversity, so hopefully they will pull themselves back together soon.
    Eff LBD!

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    Bubble Watch (ESPN) says:

    There are a few notes worth jotting down. The omissions of Wisconsin and Cincinnati, and Gonzaga's slot as the fourth No. 1 seed, seem to indicate an ongoing preference for quality wins and/or schedule rigor over sheer record sheen. The RPI -- for another year, anyway -- remains the committee's preeminent metric; 11 of the top 16 seeds fell within three spots of their RPI ranking. The only outlier in this regard, West Virginia, arrived with wins over Kansas, Baylor and Virginia (on the road), which dovetails neatly with the first point. That Purdue joined the Badgers on the outside of the top 16 could indicate that the committee -- maybe rightly so -- is less than impressed with the Big Ten overall.
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    5 Games left, Purdue holds the tie-breaker vs. Maryland and Wisconsin with head-to-head wins. Can the Boilermakers pull off another one or does Wisconsin hold on?


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