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    Raiders file with NFL to move to Las Vegas

    Well the NFL leaving San Diego was not the end of it. Now the NFL departs Oakland. Odd some sources indicate while the vote to approve will occur this March the team would relocate for the 2020 season ! If true really odd 3 years of playing in a city your leaving ?

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    Oakland could/should just send them back to Frank Yuell field where they began and start converting the Coliseum into a dedicated baseball park. Or water park. Granted, Laney College has expanded over the top of Yuell field, but the college still has its own football field that would work just fine.

    Having grown up around Oakland before the Raiders, I've got little love for either, but Raiders and Las Vegas seems to me to be a good match - both "classy" in exactly the same sense of the word. The facetious sense.

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    Its funny to hear old people opine about the Raiders as a bunch of thugs. They haven't fit that description in 35 years or more but I still like it.

    I started cheering for the Raiders in '74. They were my favorite until the Colts moved to Indy in '84 but I still watched them and liked seeing them do well. While I did go see them play one time in Cincinnati, there was zero chance I would ever go to Oakland to see them. But I can promise you I will make a weekend of a Raiders game in Vegas. What a blast that will be.

    I'm assuming the three year wait is to build them a stadium???
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    3 years gives fans time to learn how to be un-fans.

    Hang in there Oakland, life is just fine without NFL football.
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    Its funny to hear old people opine about the Raiders as a bunch of thugs. They haven't fit that description in 35 years or more but I still like it...
    I think they are referring to the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indyknut View Post
    3 years gives fans time to learn how to be un-fans.

    Hang in there Oakland, life is just fine without NFL football.
    They know from past experience. Plus, the City of Oakland is losing their basketball team in some sense too.

    But if any team can pull off 3 lame duck seasons, it's the Raiders. Their fan base is really unique in some sense, they are one of the most popular teams in the NFL, yet not universally enamored with around the Bay Area like you see in Dallas, Green Bay, or Western Pennsylvania. Granted they have competition for their allegiance, but it's more of a dedicated fan base that are in love with the team, not the City.

    Fans chose the Raiders not because they're from Oakland but the image they represent which isn't Oakland, but this nomadic outcast To a lot of them, I think it's not so much they're leaving Oakland as Oakland was just a stop for them until they move elsewhere and they're follow them best they can. Plus, they've been through it before.

    Al Davis put a lot of crap on the Field and moved the team. Guys like Modell, Frontiere, and Spanos get vilified, Al Davis was beloved by his base for the most part. It wasn't about representing Oakland or successful football, it was this image of a rebel they love. In the end, what matters to them is the Autumn Wind is a raider, pillaging just for fun. He'll knock you 'round and upside down, and laugh when he's conquered and won.

    Personally, I hope the next three years is brutal for them with crowd's of like 10,000, because it'll show the NFL owners, rank and file fans can't be taken for granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Its funny to hear old people opine about the Raiders as a bunch of thugs. They haven't fit that description in 35 years or more but I still like it.
    Nonsense, the Raiders have consistently fielded dirty and disproportionately heavily penalized teams. 7 of the top 10 most penalized teams since 1990 are Raiders teams. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

    https://www.sportingcharts.com/artic...n-the-nfl.aspx

    A description that hasn't fit the Raiders is "Commitment to Excellence." No doubt about that. Though Del Rio is doing a great job, and it's nice to see that finally may be changing.

    Hope they move to Vegas, the stadium in Oakland is an awful place to see a game.
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    Heavily penalized isn't the same as dirty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed View Post
    Nonsense, the Raiders have consistently fielded dirty and disproportionately heavily penalized teams. 7 of the top 10 most penalized teams since 1990 are Raiders teams. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

    https://www.sportingcharts.com/artic...n-the-nfl.aspx

    Thanks for making my point. Not sure how old you are so I don't know if you were around to watch them in the 70s but they were outlaws. Today they lead the league in penalties...okay, but it wasn't off-sides or illegal formations in the 70s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StatMan View Post
    Heavily penalized isn't the same as dirty.

    There you go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    There you go.

    I agree, but that was't the case when Ben Davidson, Tom Keating, Carlton Oats, George Atkinson, Otis Sistrunk, Jack Tatum (whom I liked), Phil Villipiano, the Tooz and Ted Hedricks played.

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    To this day, I regard Lester Hayes as one of my favorite d-backs ever. #37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by railroad View Post
    To this day, I regard Lester Hayes as one of my favorite d-backs ever. #37.
    Stick-um to me taints his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Cobain View Post
    Stick-um to me taints his career.
    Why? It was legal then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why? It was legal then.
    Well Willie Brown didn't need it.

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    He didn't use it but he would have had more picks if he did.


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    Doesn't matter where the Raiders go so long as it's West of Denver... I'll still only get to see them play when they play the Bucs or the Dolphins

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    Quote Originally Posted by railroad View Post
    To this day, I regard Lester Hayes as one of my favorite d-backs ever. #37.

    I admire Hayes for having great personal courage; he had a terrible stutter but never refused an interview, stood up there and did his best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Thanks for making my point.
    That is the kind of truth detecting we all require!!

    Stats and facts, whatever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by railroad View Post
    To this day, I regard Lester Hayes as one of my favorite d-backs ever. #37.
    You would. The guy was made of pine tar and everything stuck to him !! As fr me......Stabler to Biletnikoff. But Ted Hendricks get an honorable mention also.


    But you can talk Jim Otto and I won't be upset!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopanzer View Post
    You would. The guy was made of pine tar and everything stuck to him !! As fr me......Stabler to Biletnikoff. But Ted Hendricks get an honorable mention also.


    But you can talk Jim Otto and I won't be upset!!
    Hard not to like the Mad Stork. Or Otto. Or Blanda for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbopanzer View Post
    You would. The guy was made of pine tar and everything stuck to him !! As fr me......Stabler to Biletnikoff. But Ted Hendricks get an honorable mention also.


    But you can talk Jim Otto and I won't be upset!!


    What, no love for Todd Marinovich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What, no love for Todd Marinovich?
    I have run into Marinovich a couple times in the real world, probably like hundreds of people riding Beach Cruisers on the Newport Beach boardwalk have. I've got a lot of sympathy for that guy, at least based on what I've read, his parents did him no favors.

    Does anyone think that David Carr looks like Billy Joe Armstrong from Green Day? He kind of looks like he's sporting eye liner. The Raiders stuck with him, which I thought was a questionable call, but was clearly correct.

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    Since its Las Vegas I wonder if people will be able to place bets on whether or not crime rates jump dramatically when the Raiders are playing at home. #RaidersHaters
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    Look for the crime rate to drop - for three hours every Sunday.

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    People in Vegas are awake on Sunday when the NFL is playing??

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    Stick-um to me taints his career.
    Why? It was legal then.
    Plus it's not like receiver gloves aren't practically football magnets.

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    This is going to present some ethical issues for the NFL - players are prohibited from entering gambling establishments ... so what's going to happen to the 53 players that will now spend 6-8 months of the year in Vegas? Maybe you can limit the visiting players somehow to their hotels and IHOP but there are slot machines at the airport. Where are you going to draw this line?

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