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    2017 NFL offseason

    The Seahawks kicker Stephen Hauschka is a FA and he's struggled a bit this year, looks like he won't be. Seattle signed ... this guy:


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    He's a project.
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    Real time cap space from Sportrac:

    1 Cleveland Browns $105,046,997
    2 San Francisco 49ers $81,885,485
    3 Tennessee Titans $67,150,138
    4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers$67,038,655
    5 New England Patriots $62,946,093
    6 Jacksonville Jaguars $62,192,963
    7 Indianapolis Colts $60,915,819
    8 Washington Redskins $60,365,810
    9 Chicago Bears $58,003,321
    10 Carolina Panthers $49,083,149
    11 Oakland Raiders $47,085,414
    12 Green Bay Packers $43,568,612
    13 Cincinnati Bengals $42,634,345
    14 Detroit Lions $37,881,088
    15 Los Angeles Rams $35,730,625
    16 Arizona Cardinals $34,538,965
    17 Pittsburgh Steelers $34,533,071
    18 Denver Broncos $32,201,140
    19 Miami Dolphins $29,379,383
    20 Atlanta Falcons $29,261,300
    21 Buffalo Bills $26,012,670
    22 New Orleans Saints $25,451,482
    23 Seattle Seahawks $24,463,640
    24 New York Giants $24,125,039
    25 Houston Texans $21,526,388
    26 Los Angeles Chargers $21,463,850
    27 Minnesota Vikings $18,568,209
    28 Baltimore Ravens $13,859,325
    29 Philadelphia Eagles $6,523,476
    30 Kansas City Chiefs $-3,878,853
    31 New York Jets $-13,718,462
    32 Dallas Cowboys $-14,953,322

    Amazing, the Patriots have $60,000,000 left over and the Jets are under water.

    With no 1st round pick, Rams probably will spend most of their Cap room on WR needs like Ashlon Jeffery. Problem is you then have a ton of salary into WR spot. Austin pretty much a waste at $15,000,000 although hope is McVay can turn him in to Desean Jackson. Pierre Garcon could be a lot cheaper.

    Need OL help too. Wait a minute, they need help pretty much everywhere.

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    Good god Cleveland. DO SOMETHING with that cash lol.

    Maybe Cincy will spend some money this year...no? ok.

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    You heard it hear first...or second. Gronk gets traded either this summer or sometime during the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodneyh View Post
    Real time cap space from Sportrac:

    1 Cleveland Browns $105,046,997
    2 San Francisco 49ers $81,885,485
    3 Tennessee Titans $67,150,138
    4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers$67,038,655
    5 New England Patriots $62,946,093
    6 Jacksonville Jaguars $62,192,963
    7 Indianapolis Colts $60,915,819
    8 Washington Redskins $60,365,810
    9 Chicago Bears $58,003,321
    10 Carolina Panthers $49,083,149
    Those top 10 cap-space teams are under-performers and sure have a lot of improving to do, but they have the funds available to accomplish it.
    Oh--wait...
    Crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saidhead View Post
    Good god Cleveland. DO SOMETHING with that cash lol.

    Free agents don't want to play there.

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    TE Martellus Bennett of the Pats was on NFLN right after the game, laughing and celebrating. '....best part, I'm going to be a free agent as a Super Bowl winner and teams ALWAYS overpay Super Bowl winners!'

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    Oakland Raiders star Aldon Smith is being investigated for what we're told is a domestic incident ... TMZ Sports has learned.

    Sources tell us cops in San Francisco were called early Saturday morning and responded to a home in the city. Smith owns a house in San Francisco.

    Police interviewed Smith and the alleged victim and took a report. The case is under "active investigation."
    Smith has not been arrested.

    An arrest would be catastrophic for Smith's career -- he's currently suspended by the NFL for multiple violations of the league's substance abuse policy.
    http://www.tmz.com/

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    What an idiot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Free agents don't want to play there.
    And worse, the ones that do are just...bad. Not even lovable bumblers.

    Never fear. These are the two most debated locally Browns topics this offseason, and one fact that makes you go "duh":

    1. Our head coach and his new staff hires ages (between 58-71 for those who really want to know).

    2. If we don't trade for Garropolo then we MUST take a franchise QB with that first pick. In a draft devoid of apparent franchise QB's. You know, because a 1-15 team has so few holes that either scenario is a bona-fide win...

    3. The Browns and Jaguars are the two teams most reliant on financial stats weenies to make personnel choices. Coincidentally, the two teams with the worst records over the past five years are...and most of the Browns hires are ex-Jags so they have had time to perfect their apparent skills in this discipline so they're firing on all cylinders in Cleveland.

    That $105M appears safe.

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    Talk on Mike & Mike this morning about the Bears considering the #3 overall for Garropolo. Please no. BB doesn't need help winning in New England. Make him earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Talk on Mike & Mike this morning about the Bears considering the #3 overall for Garropolo. Please no. BB doesn't need help winning in New England. Make him earn it.
    I would think he would be a good pick up for several teams if he were made available.

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    Giants cut Victor Cruz and Rashad Jennings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow101 View Post
    And worse, the ones that do are just...bad. Not even lovable bumblers.

    Never fear. These are the two most debated locally Browns topics this offseason, and one fact that makes you go "duh":

    1. Our head coach and his new staff hires ages (between 58-71 for those who really want to know).

    2. If we don't trade for Garropolo then we MUST take a franchise QB with that first pick. In a draft devoid of apparent franchise QB's. You know, because a 1-15 team has so few holes that either scenario is a bona-fide win...

    3. The Browns and Jaguars are the two teams most reliant on financial stats weenies to make personnel choices. Coincidentally, the two teams with the worst records over the past five years are...and most of the Browns hires are ex-Jags so they have had time to perfect their apparent skills in this discipline so they're firing on all cylinders in Cleveland.

    That $105M appears safe.
    On the bright side, Browns ticket prices are decreasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyCarFan100 View Post
    I would think he would be a good pick up for several teams if he were made available.
    Okay, but don't give the third pick in the draft for him!

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    I agree. There's little chance to think he would go #3 overall this season if he were coming out of college, which is the equivalent of trading the #3 for him.

    I have no reason to doubt Jimmy G. could be a decent starter in the league. However, playing with New England made a serviceable, middling QB like Cassel look like a potential franchise QB.

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    Heck, Matt Flynn got a big payday based on one game with Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers sat the final game since it couldn't improve their standings. If your team blows, adding a QB who looked good on a top team probably isn't going to change your franchise. If you have an otherwise above average team with a below average QB, then it's a different story. CoughHoustoncough.

    I doubt this happens, but Watt for Romo makes some sense. Houston needs a QB but is stacked on defense. Dallas could use some help on the defensive line.. Watt's a better DL than Romo is a QB, and he's younger, but Houston needs a QB more than Dallas needs a DE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    I agree. There's little chance to think he would go #3 overall this season if he were coming out of college, which is the equivalent of trading the #3 for him.

    I have no reason to doubt Jimmy G. could be a decent starter in the league. However, playing with New England made a serviceable, middling QB like Cassel look like a potential franchise QB.
    On the flip side, no one was very impressed with Ryan Mallett when he was NE's backup and that skepticism was well founded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StatMan View Post
    Heck, Matt Flynn got a big payday based on one game with Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers sat the final game since it couldn't improve their standings. If your team blows, adding a QB who looked good on a top team probably isn't going to change your franchise. If you have an otherwise above average team with a below average QB, then it's a different story. CoughHoustoncough.

    I doubt this happens, but Watt for Romo makes some sense.
    They probably won't have to do that. Romo is going to get released provided that he makes a secret promise to Jerry that he won't sign with an NFC contender. That probably rules out the Redskins, Vikings and maybe the 49ers, leaving Cleveland, Houston and the Jets in play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Okay, but don't give the third pick in the draft for him!

    Agreed. Absolutely not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The outcome is usually not favorable for anyone out trolling the streets at 2:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow101 View Post
    The outcome is usually not favorable for anyone out trolling the streets at 2:43 AM.
    Tony Dungy: "Nothing good happens after midnight."

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    Trent Richardson busted for domestic violence. His downfall may get its own 30 for 30 some day.

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    Now that the Pats won an SB without him, when do the Patriots trade Gronkowski?

    His contract isn't entirely crazy: his salaries from 2017-19 are $4.25 million, $8 million and $9 million. His cap hits are $7 million, $11 million and $12 million.
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    PFR released its AV ratings, which is an attempt to assign a value to every player's season. This tool is subject to debate, but it's a fun way to compare the relative worth of players across many different positions, including essentially stat-less positions such as o-line. It's also useful for eliminating hype! So players that fly under the radar get their due.

    The 2016 rankings have a couple surprises near the top...

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...aft_pos_is_p=Y

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