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    What the heck: 2018/2019 Silly Season

    This young man will probably find his way into IndyCar, IMO:
    http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/14...ycar-prospects

    He is fast!

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    I'm hopeful that drivers from more series are being given a serious look. Then again, I keep hoping IndyCar will go back up to 26 car fields!

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    Ummmmm. Pipo Derani washed out of Pro Mazda. Wickens won 20 open wheel races and was paid by a factory to drive for the last six years. There is zero comparison between the two.

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    Except for wins in all of the United States' major endurance races, most of which were won with Derani doing the lion's share of the driving (and passing).

    He's proven himself just as much as Wickens had in his pre-IndyCar career.
    Just wait 'till next year!

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    No. Let's not start this silly season stuff already
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    Quote Originally Posted by RHRfan#1 View Post
    No. Let's not start this silly season stuff already

    I'm in another forum and they're already talking the 2020 schedule.
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    To early to say Wickins to Ganassi next season?

    What happens at Andretti next season? With Herta most likely making the jump do they run 5 ? Is RHR a free agent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakinca View Post
    With Herta most likely making the jump do they run 5 ?
    What jump is Herta likely making?
    Be a better driver, move right except to pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Skywalker View Post
    Except for wins in all of the United States' major endurance races, most of which were won with Derani doing the lion's share of the driving (and passing).

    He's proven himself just as much as Wickens had in his pre-IndyCar career.
    Seriously?

    Derani - 2 reverse grid open wheel wins and five sports car wins.
    Wickens - 20 open wheel wins, 2 open wheel championships, four
    other top 3 finishes in open wheel championships, and six wins in DTM.

    And also, which Championship did Wickens quit to get out of paying crash damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackHomeAgain View Post
    What jump is Herta likely making?
    I'm guessing Colton Herta to IndyCar is what is being referenced

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyrothrules View Post
    And also, which Championship did Wickens quit to get out of paying crash damage?
    I assume you are saying that Derani did? Could you fill us in?

    Anyway, I think the kid is fast. Some of his sports car runs have been very impressive.

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    I am wondering if Ed Jones will still be with CGR next year. Does anyone know if he has more than a one-year contract?

    The way things are going for Hartley in F1 (compared to Gasly), he might be available to Chip next year. But will he have lost his luster by then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyrothrules View Post
    Ummmmm. Pipo Derani washed out of Pro Mazda. Wickens won 20 open wheel races and was paid by a factory to drive for the last six years. There is zero comparison between the two.
    Except for the fact that Derani has won some of the biggest sports car races in the US and has driven for factory or quasi-factory teams and matched or bested some of his vastly more experienced teammates.

    Newgarden washed out of the European ladder system, should we have written him off? Daly had a more successful European career and people seem to lambast him.

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    Derani is the real deal
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    "Paff is far more right than any of you will EVER give him credit for.

    As non politically correct and un IndyCar friendly as it is, it's the truth. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by martyrothrules View Post
    Ummmmm. Pipo Derani washed out of Pro Mazda.
    So what? He's not the driver he was as a teenager. As others have pointed out he's won the biggest endurance races in the US against world class competition. Find someone in IMSA who questions his talent. Before he made his mark in IMSA I would have questioned a move to Indy car. Since he's proven himself with his accomplishments I wouldn't. If I was a car owner who could hire on talent and accomplishments I'd choose him over the latest teenager of the month from MRTI.
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    My silly sources tell me that it's early but some drivers who don't have contracts for 2019 may well be changing teams or be out of a ride.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hitokiri View Post
    I'm in another forum and they're already talking the 2020 schedule.
    I would say that's a valid discussion for speculation in that there are probably venues that have contracts expiring after this year and certainly by the end of 2019.
    Most tracks and street venues on the schedule are carryovers from at least last year so with at least two and many with more years of attendance to base their decision on, do they see enough progress to make it worthwhile to resign beyond this year and they should have an even better idea what the future looks like going to 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Paff View Post
    Derani is the real deal
    I'm pleasantly surprised to hear you say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHRfan#1 View Post
    I'm pleasantly surprised to hear you say that.
    I call them how I see them.. I have watched him tear the field up in IMSA over the past 3 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Paff View Post
    I call them how I see them.. I have watched him tear the field up in IMSA over the past 3 years
    same, the guy is a stud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHRfan#1 View Post
    I'm pleasantly surprised to hear you say that.
    You shouldn't, Chris has praised other IMSA drivers as well.

    A driver can be called a "real deal" after he/she has demonstrated ability and won against other accomplished professionals. Derani has.

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    Pipo Derani is an interesting case.
    His junior open wheel record is thoroughly mediocre.
    But then he got to sportscar and had a renaissance.

    Did he vastly improve in the last few years?
    Or is sportscar what he is good at but not single seaters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveL View Post
    You shouldn't, Chris has praised other IMSA drivers as well.

    A driver can be called a "real deal" after he/she has demonstrated ability and won against other accomplished professionals. Derani has.
    the shock is because Derani isn't an American. I thought he only supported American drivers, that is why i was pleasantly surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raskav View Post
    Pipo Derani is an interesting case.
    His junior open wheel record is thoroughly mediocre.
    But then he got to sportscar and had a renaissance.

    Did he vastly improve in the last few years?
    Or is sportscar what he is good at but not single seaters?
    Perhaps like Scott Pruett, he didn't really impress in single seater, but then just crushed the fields in Sports Cars.

    I think Derani is the real deal personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHRfan#1 View Post
    the shock is because Derani isn't an American. I thought he only supported American drivers, that is why i was pleasantly surprised.
    That only applies to Indycar

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    Quote Originally Posted by raskav View Post
    Pipo Derani is an interesting case.
    His junior open wheel record is thoroughly mediocre.
    But then he got to sportscar and had a renaissance.

    Did he vastly improve in the last few years?
    Or is sportscar what he is good at but not single seaters?
    Some drivers just mature and develop their skills at a slower pace. He also may not have been in the right teams at the right time. Even in lower ranks, there can be great differences in the quality of team and preparation. doing well in sports cars can also sometimes be misleading. A driver can be fast, but may be technically weak on set ups. As long as someone else on the team properly sets up the car, they can shine. On their own, they get lost. I do this Derani has come into is own though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Paff View Post
    Derani is the real deal
    i think someone hacked chris paff's account.

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    http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/14...ndycar-program

    Not much to report, but Scuderia Corso angling for a full time role. Key is that the sporting director is Stefan Johansson.
    "If your car was a dog, then you had to figure it out and test your own limits. And we didn't go to a wind tunnel – we did it in the first turn at Indianapolis."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlor View Post
    http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/14...ndycar-program

    Not much to report, but Scuderia Corso angling for a full time role. Key is that the sporting director is Stefan Johansson.
    This is crazy on so many levels. The fact that another quality team owner is looking to join the Indycar Sereis is very positive. If Scuderia Corso is getting its foot wet in order to to introduce another manufacturer to the series that's even better. No matter what it's positive news all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fro View Post
    Probably due for a 2019 thread with some of the news coming out of the 500

    Scuderia Corsa is in for the 500 in 2019 at least, looking at FT
    https://racer.com/2018/05/31/scuderi...2019-indy-500/
    Here we go, they're still working on FT in 2019 with their own squad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlor View Post
    Alonso's manager will accompany Brown and deFerran in Detroit.

    https://www.wheels24.co.za/FormulaOn...-race-20180530
    Fernando/McLaren 2019 FT heating up.

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    Here's what I've got, all based on publicly available reporting in Racer/Motorsport.com, etc, so no "Insider" info:

    Potential new/returning teams (Indy 500 only this year or not in series at all):
    McLaren (Partnership with Andretti or RLL for 2019 before splitting off into their own team in 2020)
    Scuderia Corsa (possibly out of their own shop or partnership depending on # of races)
    Andretti Steinbrenner (if Colton Herta wins Lights this is more likely)
    Dreyer & Reinbold (https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...eturn-1010417/) - Bought 2 new cars
    Belardi

    Candidate to expand number of races/potentially be FT:
    Meyer Shank (sponsorship seems solid here with Sirius/XM CEO as a new co-owner)

    Potentially adding cars:
    Andretti, RLLR (seemingly would be partnerships with McLaren/SC/Steinbrenner)

    Everyone else who seems to be on solid footing has 2 cars right now.

    Questionable sponsorship-wise to continue (my hunch based on what's listed on the car):
    Harding (seems to be running on Hardingbux and whatever B2B deals they land)
    Juncos (Not confirmed to run the rest of season and relying on total ride-buyers)

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