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    Larry Nuber

    What happened between him and Steve Chassey?
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    Interesting that Keith Olbermann seems to hate auto racing.

    Perhaps it has something to do with him never being able to feel comfortable driving a car- IIRC he has some sort of vision problem and doesn't even drive. Don't know how far back that goes, though.

    EDIT: Not vision, but a head injury;
    In August 1980, he also suffered a head injury while leaping onto a New York City Subway train.[123] This head injury permanently upset his equilibrium, resulting in his avoidance of driving.[6] Along with Bob Costas, he supports the Multiple Myeloma Research Foundation as an honorary board member.
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    In the years since, someone connected with ESPN told me that the reason Larry Nuber didn't have his contract renewed was over the conflict of interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stick500 View Post
    Interesting that Keith Olbermann seems to hate auto racing.

    Perhaps it has something to do with him never being able to feel comfortable driving a car- IIRC he has some sort of vision problem and doesn't even drive. Don't know how far back that goes, though.
    Just a guess but I imagine he thinks all race fans are toothless Skoal dipping sister diddlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamski View Post
    That was an interesting read. Who is Jim Thurman?

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    Just a guess but I imagine he thinks all race fans are toothless Skoal dipping sister diddlers.
    Olbermann once ran a segment called the Worst Person in the World or something to that effect. He should have nominated himself on several occasions.

    Considering how many times he's been canned for being a complete and total a$$ and his known lechery on college campuses during his initial ESPN days, he has little room to talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boilerdave View Post
    That was an interesting read. Who is Jim Thurman?
    Just some guy.

    Google "Jim Thurman" and you'll get a variety of people: a comedy writer-voice actor; a food writer; a freelance writer; a Negro League baseball player; a Wofford linebacker, and more...

    Google "Jim Thurman" auto racing, and you'll get a list of links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JThur1 View Post
    Just some guy.

    Google "Jim Thurman" and you'll get a variety of people: a comedy writer-voice actor; a food writer; a freelance writer; a Negro League baseball player; a Wofford linebacker, and more...

    Google "Jim Thurman" auto racing, and you'll get a list of links.

    Haha...they all sound like GREAT guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JThur1 View Post
    Just some guy.



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    How many buttocks does he have?

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    At The Night Before the 500 Midget show in 2000, Larry sat 2 rows in front of us.
    He was wearing a Wynns cap and shirt and was with a group of similarly attired people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandj View Post
    At The Night Before the 500 Midget show in 2000, Larry sat 2 rows in front of us.
    He was wearing a Wynns cap and shirt and was with a group of similarly attired people.
    He was at an ASA show at the Fairgrounds (then Nashville Speedway USA), I want to say in '99. I had to go down and at least say hello.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Ferner View Post
    The Thurman surname seems to turn up quite a bit in Virginia. It seems to be where the family arrived before moving on to Ohio, then on to other points around the United States.

    There's also a Jim Thurman that raced dirt late models in Illinois and Iowa from the 60s through 80s, and a Jim Thurman that raced bomber stocks at Ukiah Speedway in Ukiah, California, which further proves the name and surname combo isn't that uncommon or unusual

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    With Olbermann it just goes to show that he is capable of making people see what an evil person he is totally independent from the matter of politics.

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    I worked with Larry in the mid-to-late 90's at ASA. Jim Thurman is mostly correct but showing quite a bit of bias against Nuber. Larry was a great guy and he did in fact pass of an aneurysm from what we were told by Wynn's. He traveled to nearly every ASA race as Wynn's was a sponsor and also sponsored Gary St. Amant, Kenny Irwin, etc. He knew his stuff and was very passionate... and very opinionated at times. He called a spade a spade but the fact is, when you're putting together deals, managing drivers and catering to sponsors it's hard to be 100% unbiased. He loved the sport and it was sad when he passed. Most of us grew up watching Nuber and Jenkins as the main ESPN NASCAR announcers. They were really good together.

    I'll find pics of Larry if you'd like me to post - be here is Gary's car and also Larry always traveled with "Miss Wynn's". I liked eating dinner with Larry, becasue he preferred expensive steak houses and always put it on Wynn's tab.







    For those who don't know Larry Nuber. He was the "original" ESPN color guy with Bob Jenkins for all NASCAR races and would host Speedweek with Bob as well. I grew up watching Larry so was a little star struck when I met him. He called Bill Elliott's Million Dollar win at Darlington, etc.




    Larry on Speedweek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11rowsof3 View Post


    Your photo reminds me of watching Jenkins and Nuber work outside the pits at Mid-Ohio on an Indy weekend. Because Jenkins was so much taller than Larry they had Larry standing on a couple of old wooden Coca-Cola bottle boxes turned upside down so that their heads would be at the same height when on camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyrjc View Post
    Your photo reminds me of watching Jenkins and Nuber work outside the pits at Mid-Ohio on an Indy weekend. Because Jenkins was so much taller than Larry they had Larry standing on a couple of old wooden Coca-Cola bottle boxes turned upside down so that their heads would be at the same height when on camera.

    Bob was tall... Larry was... not.

    So true, I never even noticed when posting so he is for sure standing on a box here too. Below is more box-less.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 11rowsof3 View Post
    I worked with Larry in the mid-to-late 90's at ASA. Jim Thurman is mostly correct but showing quite a bit of bias against Nuber.
    What is incorrect?

    Reporting things factually isn't bias, particularly when some of his better traits were mentioned, despite his unprofessional conduct which cost him his on-air career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JThur1 View Post
    What is incorrect?

    Reporting things factually isn't bias, particularly when some of his better traits were mentioned, despite his unprofessional conduct which cost him his on-air career.
    Didn't mean to insult, Sorry. The first sentence "I know Larry Nuber certainly ticked me off toward the end of his on air career, but I didn't have anything to do with his firing." so I read it as... "I didn't like Larry, here's what happened".


    Your facts were not incorrect at all... it's just there are always two sides to the story. Such as (like with Johnny Hayes and TBS) ESPN told Larry he could rep drivers and rep sponsors while broadcasting. They trusted him to keep it unbiased until the on-air fight with Chassey. Also, with that "allegedly" (from Larry) Steve is the one who first went "personal" on Vogler and Larry took exception to it and stuck up for "his guy". They both got fired and Steve was the one they made apologize, so... yeah. ALSO, you have to understand that a previous Sports Director at ESPN had just signed Larry to a five year deal in 1987 and they were looking for a way out of the contract. They were paying him like a lead NASCAR guy, but had already replaced him with Benny Parsons and Ned Jarrett. So basically, he was getting Benny-type money for Thursday Night Thunder.

    The bummer is, Rich would have been hanging out with Steve now and they would have been going to Robin Miller's lunch and dinner meetings, etc and laughing about it all. They had just had a falling out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11rowsof3 View Post
    Didn't mean to insult, Sorry. The first sentence "I know Larry Nuber certainly ticked me off toward the end of his on air career, but I didn't have anything to do with his firing." so I read it as... "I didn't like Larry, here's what happened".


    Your facts were not incorrect at all... it's just there are always two sides to the story. Such as (like with Johnny Hayes and TBS) ESPN told Larry he could rep drivers and rep sponsors while broadcasting. They trusted him to keep it unbiased until the on-air fight with Chassey. Also, with that "allegedly" (from Larry) Steve is the one who first went "personal" on Vogler and Larry took exception to it and stuck up for "his guy". They both got fired and Steve was the one they made apologize, so... yeah. ALSO, you have to understand that a previous Sports Director at ESPN had just signed Larry to a five year deal in 1987 and they were looking for a way out of the contract. They were paying him like a lead NASCAR guy, but had already replaced him with Benny Parsons and Ned Jarrett. So basically, he was getting Benny-type money for Thursday Night Thunder.

    The bummer is, Rich would have been hanging out with Steve now and they would have been going to Robin Miller's lunch and dinner meetings, etc and laughing about it all. They had just had a falling out.
    Sorry to take so long to get back to you. It's immaterial whether I like Larry Nuber or not when it comes to reporting what happened (seeing it written, that comes off bad, but it isn't intended that way). Hopefully you'll get what I mean by that. And, you're right, there are two sides to every story. Thanks for the rest of it It pretty much corroborates what I was told, the exception being I was told Larry had been warned about his conflict over managing/promoting Gordon. The Vogler incident happened, which didn't help matters, but was kind of an aside to the real issue. When he chose to not divest himself from Gordon, his contract was not renewed.

    I'm not sure Chassey and Vogler would have been hanging out, because that ran deep.

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    For Steve Chassey's take on the incident, it's in this interview:

    https://www.oldracingcars.com/driver...Steve-Chassey/

    EDIT: It's a ways down in the interview, but the whole interview is worth a read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JThur1 View Post
    For Steve Chassey's take on the incident, it's in this interview:

    https://www.oldracingcars.com/driver...Steve-Chassey/

    EDIT: It's a ways down in the interview, but the whole interview is worth a read.
    Thank you! Great stuff. Sorry about my tone. All good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11rowsof3 View Post
    Thank you! Great stuff. Sorry about my tone. All good.
    You're welcome, and same here

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    Also, sometimes Larry did the whole thing without Bob Jenkins. We all love Bob and he, Ned and Benny were the ultimate lineup for NASCAR - but look what a professional and efficient job Larry did. Really missed him as a kid growing up when he wasn't there. Loved his passion for the sport.

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    So is there YouTube video of this fight between Chassey and Nuber?
    Just wait 'till next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Skywalker View Post
    So is there YouTube video of this fight between Chassey and Nuber?

    Nope - not that I have found (and I looked). I "think" it was the 1989 IRP race where Gary Bettenhausen had to bail out of the car. But only Gary's incident is on YouTube, not the whole night.

    It's unfortunate. In today's media, ESPN would have loved the fight and probably played it up with social media and promos to try to get more viewers.

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    I have an incomplete and rather poorly edited version on a VHS tape, around here...somewhere.

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    Larry Nuber was my hometown guy as we were both from Toledo. I did meet him once. It was at one of the Columbus Camel GT weekends. Might have been the last year of Tullius' Jaguar operation as the Walkinshaw folks were in attendance. I remember pointing this out to Larry...

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