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    Competing against F1 is dumb.

    I have no idea how tv schedules work, but damn, couldn't we NOT go against F1?

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    At least it's not on against Nascar.

    I'll be watching all 3 races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigar1
    I have no idea how tv schedules work, but damn, couldn't we NOT go against F1?
    they must have tape delayed your F1 coverage

    it's been over for a couple of hours now (not spoiling anything)

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    Don't blame the IRL. Fox chose to show this one instead of Speed.
    It's a Hoosier thing, you wouldn't understand...

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    FOX same day coverage of F1 up against the IRL race on West Coast.

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    No lights at the track so they couldn't run on Saturday night if they wanted.

    The only choice is up against tape delayed F-1 or delay it and run against NASCAR. Which do you think the IRL should have done?

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    head to head on network
    will their two combined USA ratings top Nascar on cable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ann Dretti
    FOX same day coverage of F1 up against the IRL race on West Coast.
    Iowa is on the West coast? When did they move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wilke
    No lights at the track so they couldn't run on Saturday night if they wanted...
    I hope that some of the other series that are racing there later this year are aware of this, since their races don't start until after 7:00 pm.

    Iowa Race Schedule

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikari
    they must have tape delayed your F1 coverage

    it's been over for a couple of hours now (not spoiling anything)
    Yep. When Fox decides to show an F1 race on the network instead of Speed, they delay the broadcast to get it on after noon, and cut the pre- and post-race shows down to nearly nothing.

    Oh, and Iowa is nowhere near the West coast, and the track is magnificantly lighted for night races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Wilke
    No lights at the track so they couldn't run on Saturday night if they wanted.

    The only choice is up against tape delayed F-1 or delay it and run against NASCAR. Which do you think the IRL should have done?
    There are lights at the track, Jim. I wouldn't want this race at night, though...I wouldn't get home until 1am. It took many of us longer to get out of the parking lot than it took to run the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nascarnation
    head to head on network
    will their two combined USA ratings top Nascar on cable?
    Nope. But the more important irrelavent question to this thread is, what happened to make you so suddenly hostile towards IndyCar? You always struck me as one of the NASCAR-first fans that was able to be objective and enjoy both series. Lately you seem to want to take a lot of shots at the IRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedmonkey
    Nope. But the more important irrelavent question to this thread is, what happened to make you so suddenly hostile towards IndyCar? ...
    I can't speak for 'nascarnation', but in my case it's been the "holier-than-thou" attitude of many of the ICS posters towards NASCAR. Turnabout is fair play.

    BTW - the "R L I" under my screen name stands for Rapidly Losing Interest. (and I'm not talking about NASCAR)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcroche
    I can't speak for 'nascarnation', but in my case it's been the "holier-than-thou" attitude of many of the ICS posters towards NASCAR. Turnabout is fair play.
    "Many" ICS posters isn't anywhere near most ICS posters. The overwhelming majority of ICS fans don't have a beef with NASCAR but it doesn't get noticed because they don't even bring up the subject or participate in NASCAR threads. It's a vocal few.

    Turnabout might be fair play, but it's not terribly mature. Tit for tat exchanges are a downhill snowball.

    I hope you're able to find renewed interest in the IndyCar Series. I wish it could bring everyone the enjoyment it brings me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedmonkey
    Nope. But the more important irrelavent question to this thread is, what happened to make you so suddenly hostile towards IndyCar? You always struck me as one of the NASCAR-first fans that was able to be objective and enjoy both series. Lately you seem to want to take a lot of shots at the IRL.
    IRL was intended to be a state within the NASCAR Nation, not a rogue Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigar1
    I have no idea how tv schedules work, but damn, couldn't we NOT go against F1?
    I am trying to figure this out, it's one thing to try to avoid being head to head with live NASCAR races they shouldn't be run in the same markets so time zone and Saturday Sunday can work out most of the time but should the ICS schedule their races to avoid any conflict with even tape delayed F-1 races? Obviously ESPN and the ICS have no control over when F-1 and FOX decide to put their broadcast on. If the ICS is so weak and afraid of being up against any other racing broadcast they should quit the business or people should stop making worrying the largest aspect of being a fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ann Dretti
    FOX same day coverage of F1 up against the IRL race on West Coast.
    Not a tough choice for me.
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    In the past, it seemed like tape delayed F1 broadcasts were put head to head against live CCWS races enough times to have been done on purpose. It wouldn't suprise me at all if it was intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportscarBruce
    IRL was intended to be a state within the NASCAR Nation, not a rogue Republic.
    I like that characterization....

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    So, let's see - IndyCar can not be on TV at the same time with:

    F1
    Sprint Cup
    Nationwide Series
    Truck Series
    Moto GP
    Motocross
    NHRA
    American Idol
    Girls Next Door
    The Hills
    PGA
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    NHL
    Sesame Street
    QVC
    World Series of Poker
    Pro Volleyball
    Billiards
    Severe Weather Warnings
    World Cup Soccer
    Jerry Springer
    The View
    Saturday Night Live

    Did I leave anything out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seadog
    So, let's see - IndyCar can not be on TV at the same time with:

    F1
    Sprint Cup
    Nationwide Series
    Truck Series
    Moto GP
    Motocross
    NHRA
    American Idol
    Girls Next Door
    The Hills
    PGA
    LPGA
    Baseball
    NBA
    NFL
    WNBA
    NHL
    Sesame Street
    QVC
    World Series of Poker
    Pro Volleyball
    Billiards
    Severe Weather Warnings
    World Cup Soccer
    Jerry Springer
    The View
    Saturday Night Live

    Did I leave anything out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigar1
    I have no idea how tv schedules work, but damn, couldn't we NOT go against F1?
    Clearly you don't. The IRL set their schedule in probably August of 2007. Fox probably decided to show this race at this time much later than that.

    So the IRL had no control over this.

    Strangely, NASCAR partner Fox did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LorenzoBandini
    Clearly you don't. The IRL set their schedule in probably August of 2007. Fox probably decided to show this race at this time much later than that.

    So the IRL had no control over this.

    Strangely, NASCAR partner Fox did.
    That's why I phrased it that way. I would think that as Fox has shown a few taped delayed F1 races in the past, that the competition might have been avoidable. I'm anxious to see what the results are.

    Our little crew watched the IRL and switched to F1 during the ads. I had the F1 recording, but was worried I would find out the winner before I could watch.

    Unfortunately for one of us, ABC/ESPN showed the winner of the French Grand Prix on the crawl during the Iowa race. I don't know if that was meant to upstage the Fox broadcast, but it sure diminished his interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LorenzoBandini
    Clearly you don't. The IRL set their schedule in probably August of 2007. Fox probably decided to show this race at this time much later than that.

    So the IRL had no control over this.

    Strangely, NASCAR partner Fox did.
    Personally, I think the time could have been moved to 3pmEDT. The F-1 race was bound by regulation to be finished in under 2 hours. That would have been 2pm Iowa time which would not have been a problem.

    Despite what Jimmy Hendricks thinks, there are a lot of us that follow both F-1 and ICS and splitting the OW fan base in TV ratings isn't in necessarily the best interest of ICS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackinbox
    Personally, I think the time could have been moved to 3pmEDT. The F-1 race was bound by regulation to be finished in under 2 hours. That would have been 2pm Iowa time which would not have been a problem.
    So, you are suggesting jerking around the fans who paid for their ticket AND running the IRL race against the most popular and most watched form of Motorsports in the USA in order to counterprogram against a series that got a .9 rating two weeks ago.

    That just sounds dumb.

    Run the race at the scheduled time. Make FOX regret their decision by getting higher ratings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackinbox
    Personally, I think the time could have been moved to 3pmEDT. The F-1 race was bound by regulation to be finished in under 2 hours. That would have been 2pm Iowa time which would not have been a problem.

    Despite what Jimmy Hendricks thinks, there are a lot of us that follow both F-1 and ICS and splitting the OW fan base in TV ratings isn't in necessarily the best interest of ICS.
    FOX is the retard here, the F1 race was tape delayed and could've and should've been run before the IRL race started. The FOX ratings would've easily been higher without another race on another channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ann Dretti
    FOX is the retard here, the F1 race was tape delayed and could've and should've been run before the IRL race started. The FOX ratings would've easily been higher without another race on another channel.
    For Fox to show it earlier woule be stupid.
    Sunday sports start at 1pm for a reason. Sunday Mornings are "Family" time. Church, Breakfast, Yard work...ect.

    Come on. I thought the IRL was the epitome of racing. Going up against a bunch of non-Americans in funny cars that don't pass it each shouldn't be a problem right?
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