I know it's cool looking, but it isn't real. I have spent ten years as a Photoshop artist, and this is a fair at best creation. Compare the shadow with the car.Originally Posted by Sea Fury
Also: found this photo from the Nurburgring while searching for the Lotus pic. I know it's not Indy cars, but I figured I'd show y'all just because it's cool:
The caption says it's Jackie Stewart and Graham Hill (and that does look like his helmet) but I can't confirm it.
God speed!
Was that the same Derek Gardner did a lot of design work for Ken Tyrrell?
.....'The Parnelli Jones Firestone Turbine that Michael Oliver described with the duck bill and white fins just before Andretti crashed and took himself and Joe Leonard out of the race at Riverside, 1968.
This is the real photo. Just compare the backgrounds, trees, crowd, etc.
It's a fairly famous pic and I knew I recognized it... but, I still need to find the photographer... I'm know it's in one of the books in my library. I just know it's not Jesse Alexander's and not from the Klemantaski Collection.
"You know what the trouble about real life is? There's no danger music." - Jim Carey
The caption was:This is the real photo. Just compare the backgrounds, trees, crowd, etc.
It's a fairly famous pic and I knew I recognized it... but, I still need to find the photographer... I'm know it's in one of the books in my library. I just know it's not Jesse Alexander's and not from the Klemantaski Collection.
"Jackie Stewart aviates his BRM 261 past the remains of a crashed touring car at Nuerburgring's Bruennchen."
The photographer was Schlegelmilch...
Thanks!.... Was that in a particular book? I'm still going through mine.
That's what I get for not looking closer.
There's a tail-on shot of James Hunt's Hesketh catching some air at the 'Ring that I wish I could find; taken from a low angle, it's got blue sky under all 4 wheels.
Kinda nuts that they kept racing F1 cars at the Nurburgring as late as they did ('76).
EDIT: Found it....
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Some more turbine shots:
Joe Leonard qualifying at Milwaukee:
Leonard at IRP
Leonard loses his brakes at IRP
Pollard practicing in the 1967 Turbine in 1968
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Michael,
Here's a guide to posting photos. It looks like a lot but go through it step by step, do it a few times, you'll get good at it pretty quickly. Hope it helps!
David.
1) go to photobucket.com, flickr.com or one of the many other photo hosting sites on the web. register to open a free account. it's quick, easy and free.
2.) i'm assuming you have already scanned your photos and have them in a file on your computer such as in your "my documents".
3) while logged onto your new photobucket account, (will use photobucket just as an example) you will see an icon (upper middle of screen) that says "upload photos" or something to that effect.
4) click "upload photos" and your "my documents" will appear. go into your saved documents (photos) folder and choose (click/highlight in blue) the photos you want to upload to photobucket. click save in your "my documents" and the photos will then upload to photobucket.
5) minimize that browser and open a new one, go to wherever you want to post a photo. this website? now you have 2 browsers open.
6) click "post reply" to post like you normally would.
7) in the "post reply" window you will see a bunch of icons at the top. click the one that looks like a yellow box with mountains in it. if you move your mouse over it, it says "insert image".
8) a box will appear where you will insert the http address. (note: if http appears in the box, which it should, delete it, you want a clear box for the address to be inserted).
9) go back to your other browser with your newly uploaded photobucket photos in it.
10) find the photo you want to post. put your mouse over chosen photo. a box will appear under it with info such as the http direct link.
11) right click the 2nd line in the list (this is the direct link) and click "copy".
12) go back to the other browser with "post reply" box. put your mouse in the "insert image" box, right click and hit "paste" to insert the direct link into address line. you have just copy/pasted the direct link from photobucket to post reply. click insert, or whatever it says, and your photo will appear in the "post reply" messege below.
13) hit "submit reply" and it should post your reply and photo for all to see.
14) keep this in mind also. in the future, if you decide to delete or remove that photo from photobucket, the photo will no longer appear in the messege board. that's why you see the white box with the little "red x" in it sometimes. it means the photo has been moved.
.....'The Parnelli Jones Firestone Turbine that Michael Oliver described with the duck bill and white fins just before Andretti crashed and took himself and Joe Leonard out of the race at Riverside, 1968.
Mario was driving Leonard's turbine, he wasn't used to the brakes and hit Pollard and took them both out.
"In America, the winner goes to Victory Lane, everybody else goes to the garage and should soak their tears in their beer and figure out how to be faster next week."
Eddie Gossage
Yes, the very same. He was employed by Ferguson Research on developing its four wheel drive systems then I believe joined Tyrrell in 1969, as a result of working with them on the 4wd Formula 1 Matra MS84.
He then designed the very first Tyrrell 001, despite having no record or experience in this area - and did a very good job of it. He then designed all subsequent Tyrrells up to and including the six-wheeled P34 but was replaced by Maurice Phillippe (ironically the designer of the Lotus 56 with Chapman in 68) for the 1978 season, when they ran the more conventional 008.
Hope this helps!
Michael
David
Many thanks, I'll give that a go when I get a moment...
Michael
I think by the time Mario took over it was a case of 'what brakes?'...!
Brakes were always a big problem for the turbines because of the high idle speeds required to improve the throttle response. It later would prove to be one of the downfalls of the Formula 1 Lotus 56B as well, they kept putting bigger and bigger brakes on the thing but it was still difficult to stop, hence Walker ending up in the catch-fencing at the end of the straight at Zandvoort in 1971.
Michael
seriously, plymouth, i had no idea?
I'm not sure if this will help support or refute any hypotheses, but here it is, for those interested:
Greg Weld with STP # 57
http://cgi.ebay.com/GREG-WELD-STP-IN...item1e59cfc2ee
Art Pollard drove a Gerhardt with a Plymouth stock block to a win at Dover Downs in August 1969. IIRC it was one of two stock block wins that year, the other being George Follmer at Phoenix in the spring in a Cheetah/Chevy.
No, I thought that's who it was and I went directly to his web site. There is an archive section...
This the same car, I believe, the #57 Gerhardt, as the one driven by Pollard. During the year, he raced both Offy- and Plymouth-powered Gerhardts - I don't have my records easily to hand so not sure if the two types of car appeared at the same event - I suspect they might have been two different cars rather than one using two different engines?
Certainly, there were two different Gerhardts (both Offy-powered at this point) at the Milwaukee Mile on June 8th, because Pollard crashed his on lap 1 and took over the Weld car on the restart, taking the win.
You are right about Follmer, who won at Phoenix at the end of March, first race of the year. Revson also won at IRP with the Repco engine in a Brabham in July.
Michael
Guess I forgot that the Repco can be considered a "stock-block" because of its Oldsmobile origins.
"Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
James Hurtubise, June, 1964
The knowledge of Indy displayed on this forum is awesome (ever used word, I know) and I thank all those contributors.Going thru the past 88 pages has just been so much fun. I really like the old pictures that show what the speedway looked like many years ago. The track has changed as much as the cars. What a great idea you had Zooom. Thanks.
PS - Especially jealous of you guys that sold programs at the speedway as kids. I'm sure had I grown up there I would have been right there with you. Maybe you guys could share some more stories related to that. Sometimes the story behind how a picture was taken is just as interesting as the picture itself.
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Emmo in the Lotus turbine F-1 adaption.
"been saving this one for a while.
1970 Indy, Probably taken from the "J" stand. Start.
Right to left, front to back:
Big Al, Lone Star JR, AJ
McCluskey, Captain Nice, Pollard
Bunser, Mario, Mike Malloy
Ziggy, Dan'l, Mosley
Leroy Yarborough, Walkupp, Rick Muther
Pelican Joe
Notice the people standing JUST outside the turn four wall!
That's where all the beer cans go during the race when everyone is through with them...
It's all stands now.
We now sit in the North West Vista, just out of the picture to the left, and about twenty feet higher than the fence posts.
This picture has been on the wall of my mancave since about 1970. The color USED to be pretty good. Maybe somebody can photochop it better...
Progress
ZOOOM
ZOOM, I put it through P'shop, ended up withy this.
Dudley
Wow! That's MUCH gooder. I need photoshop!
David.
aint confusers wonferdal?
That pitchur hasn't looked that good in........ 40 years!
THANKS!
ZOOOM
SHEEEET....
Now we know where all the yellow shirts went after the start!
ZOOOM
Great job, Dudley. I love PhotoShop. Helps me correct some of the mistakes my track photographer makes.
Photoshop is a nice tool. My only "problem" with it is that in the 6 or 7 years I have used, I don't think I have tapped 5% of its true capabilities. Makes me wonder what else I might be missing.
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Even more PhotoShop enhancing.
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