Semi official cool old Indy car pics thread

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John Paul

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Uncle Jacques

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More Chet Fillip

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John Paul

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Ongais

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[MD-IRLFAN]

Isn't this the Eagle that had been assigned to Michael Chandler, and Cogan replaced Chandler after Chandler had a career ending crash in T3 on fast Friday? If I remember correctly the car Chandler had been driving had a maroon paint scheme. What is Dubonnet? Wasn't that the sponsor on the ill fated Liger cars about this same point in time?

Does that say Pontiac?

[Rick Jones]

Does that say Pontiac?

Yup. This is the point in time when Dan Gurney was very vocal about stock blocks versus turbocharged engines. He put his words into practice and fielded cars that did not run the status quo turbo Cosworths. In 1981 Gurney had Mike Mosley on the front row at Indy in a stock block Chevy, the Pepsi Challenger. Mosley dropped out of the 500 early but the following week he won at Milwaukee starting at the rear.

[DaveL]

Yup. This is the point in time when Dan Gurney was very vocal about stock blocks versus turbocharged engines. He put his words into practice and fielded cars that did not run the status quo turbo Cosworths. In 1981 Gurney had Mike Mosley on the front row at Indy in a stock block Chevy, the Pepsi Challenger. Mosley dropped out of the 500 early but the following week he won at Milwaukee starting at the rear.

It was his lone success. Most of the time the engines blew early and often. At Indy in '82 the team went through so many engines they couldn't make a qualifying attempt. After the '84 season Gurney's sponsors demanded a conventional car with a Cossie.

[Michael Ferner]

Howdy

Kid: "When I grow up, I wanna be a race driver!"
Howdy: "--- Huh?"

[schraderfan]

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I thought that was Dean Stockwell

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It was his lone success. Most of the time the engines blew early and often. At Indy in '82 the team went through so many engines they couldn't make a qualifying attempt. After the '84 season Gurney's sponsors demanded a conventional car with a Cossie.

Hey Dave...
What about Gurney's second places with the stock blocks?
That doesn't count as a success?
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[DaveL]

Hey Dave...
What about Gurney's second places with the stock blocks?
That doesn't count as a success?
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What, that it held together for the whole race without blowing? I guess you can call that success. Looking at the bigger picture, instead of isolated races, the NA stock block efforts were a collective failure.

[BSJracing]

What, that it held together for the whole race without blowing? I guess you can call that success. Looking at the bigger picture, instead of isolated races, the NA stock block efforts were a collective failure.

and sounded like chit

[flatlander_48]

It was his lone success. Most of the time the engines blew early and often. At Indy in '82 the team went through so many engines they couldn't make a qualifying attempt. After the '84 season Gurney's sponsors demanded a conventional car with a Cossie.

But, you're forgetting:

In addition to Mosley's win, Goeff Brabham SHOULD have won at Riverside. Only a crossthreaded lugnut put him out. Rocky Moran SHOULD have won at Watkins Glen, except his crew waved him out prematurely at the last pit stop. He ran out of fuel four laps from the end. At Michigan, Mosley led with no problems until he missed a shift on a restart. They finished on 7 cylinders, but it was later discovered that only a plug wire had fallen off. At Mexico, Brabham qualified 2nd and finished 9th after repairs to a 1st lap accident. That's another 4 races that they should have won that season.

Also, in '82 they ran a turbo stock block. This wasn't the same engine that they ran previously. What happened was that the wastegate settings gave them problems. In Gurney's words: "We would either have no power coming off the corner and good power at the end of the straightaway, or we would have really good power coming off the corner and be over boosting and over speeding the blower and everything else at the other end..."

AAR did run a Cosworth in '83, but it was as a result of Gurney's partnership with Rick Galles. The '84 car was an aluminum Pontiac, but in '85 they used Cosworths because Gurney felt that the new rules killed the competitiveness of the stock block.

[flatlander_48]

and sounded like chit

You know, even a Bulldog would look pretty if it turned in fast laps...

[DaveL]

But, you're forgetting:

In addition to Mosley's win, Goeff Brabham SHOULD have won at Riverside. Only a crossthreaded lugnut put him out. Rocky Moran SHOULD have won at Watkins Glen, except his crew waved him out prematurely at the last pit stop. He ran out of fuel four laps from the end. At Michigan, Mosley led with no problems until he missed a shift on a restart. They finished on 7 cylinders, but it was later discovered that only a plug wire had fallen off. At Mexico, Brabham qualified 2nd and finished 9th after repairs to a 1st lap accident. That's another 4 races that they should have won that season.

Would, coulda, shoulda. At the end of the day the NA stock blocks had a terrible finishing percentage relative to the Cosworths.

The '84 car was an aluminum Pontiac, but in '85 they used Cosworths because Gurney felt that the new rules killed the competitiveness of the stock block.

What new rules? Any rule changes over the years for the Cosworths and other 4 camers cut boost. If anything the NA stock blocks got an increase in displacement before all was said and done.

[Ovalmeister]

Found a few more early 70's older brother shots. Not sure who some of them are?
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[DaveL]

The #61 is Lee Brayton's car. The #99 is a Joe Hunt Magneto entry. Neither car made the race.

[Sea Fury]

Found a few more early 70's older brother shots. Not sure who some of them are?
David.

Well, if you don't know who THIS is, you haven't been around here very long

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Judging by the gold helmet Harkey is in the Joe Hunt #99.

Dallenbach is in the Lindsey Hopkins #10 that eventually was bumped.

Art Pollard in the STP #40 Lola.

Dick Simon in his #44 along side, my guess, Cale Yarborogh.

[tnindyman]

Judging by the gold helmet Harkey is in the Joe Hunt #99.

Dallenbach is in the Lindsey Hopkins #10 that eventually was bumped.

Art Pollard in the STP #40 Lola.

Dick Simon in his #44 along side, my guess, Cale Yarborogh.

Didn't Art break his leg in a crash in the #40? IIRC, Wally replaced him for the race.

[Ovalmeister]

Well, if you don't know who THIS is, you haven't been around here very long

I knew that was Herk, the 99 I kinda figured was Harkey, the 14 is maybe McCluskey? The others I had problems with. I was 6 or 7 years old at the time. Does that Herk 56 still exist? Would love to see it in person.
David.

[ZOOOM]

What, that it held together for the whole race without blowing? I guess you can call that success. Looking at the bigger picture, instead of isolated races, the NA stock block efforts were a collective failure.

I know it wasn't Indy but didn't Dan run stock blocks at Riverside for a couple of wins?
I'd have to say they won more than the Novi's or the turbines!


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