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Does that say Pontiac?Originally Posted by Rick Jones
To a New Yorker like yourself, a hero is some type of weird sandwich. Not some nut who takes on three Tigers!
Yup. This is the point in time when Dan Gurney was very vocal about stock blocks versus turbocharged engines. He put his words into practice and fielded cars that did not run the status quo turbo Cosworths. In 1981 Gurney had Mike Mosley on the front row at Indy in a stock block Chevy, the Pepsi Challenger. Mosley dropped out of the 500 early but the following week he won at Milwaukee starting at the rear.Originally Posted by MD-IRLFAN
It was his lone success. Most of the time the engines blew early and often. At Indy in '82 the team went through so many engines they couldn't make a qualifying attempt. After the '84 season Gurney's sponsors demanded a conventional car with a Cossie.Originally Posted by Rick Jones
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No one had to badge the Offy.
Kid: "When I grow up, I wanna be a race driver!"Originally Posted by freesaltwalther
Howdy: "--- Huh?"
I thought that was Dean StockwellOriginally Posted by freesaltwalther
Hey Dave...Originally Posted by DaveL
What about Gurney's second places with the stock blocks?
That doesn't count as a success?
"Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
James Hurtubise, June, 1964
What, that it held together for the whole race without blowing? I guess you can call that success. Looking at the bigger picture, instead of isolated races, the NA stock block efforts were a collective failure.Originally Posted by ZOOOM
and sounded like chitOriginally Posted by DaveL
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
But, you're forgetting:Originally Posted by DaveL
In addition to Mosley's win, Goeff Brabham SHOULD have won at Riverside. Only a crossthreaded lugnut put him out. Rocky Moran SHOULD have won at Watkins Glen, except his crew waved him out prematurely at the last pit stop. He ran out of fuel four laps from the end. At Michigan, Mosley led with no problems until he missed a shift on a restart. They finished on 7 cylinders, but it was later discovered that only a plug wire had fallen off. At Mexico, Brabham qualified 2nd and finished 9th after repairs to a 1st lap accident. That's another 4 races that they should have won that season.
Also, in '82 they ran a turbo stock block. This wasn't the same engine that they ran previously. What happened was that the wastegate settings gave them problems. In Gurney's words: "We would either have no power coming off the corner and good power at the end of the straightaway, or we would have really good power coming off the corner and be over boosting and over speeding the blower and everything else at the other end..."
AAR did run a Cosworth in '83, but it was as a result of Gurney's partnership with Rick Galles. The '84 car was an aluminum Pontiac, but in '85 they used Cosworths because Gurney felt that the new rules killed the competitiveness of the stock block.
You know, even a Bulldog would look pretty if it turned in fast laps...Originally Posted by BSJracing
Would, coulda, shoulda. At the end of the day the NA stock blocks had a terrible finishing percentage relative to the Cosworths.Originally Posted by flatlander_48
What new rules? Any rule changes over the years for the Cosworths and other 4 camers cut boost. If anything the NA stock blocks got an increase in displacement before all was said and done.The '84 car was an aluminum Pontiac, but in '85 they used Cosworths because Gurney felt that the new rules killed the competitiveness of the stock block.
The #61 is Lee Brayton's car. The #99 is a Joe Hunt Magneto entry. Neither car made the race.
Well, if you don't know who THIS is, you haven't been around here very longOriginally Posted by Ovalmeister
"Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang
"If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio
Judging by the gold helmet Harkey is in the Joe Hunt #99.
Dallenbach is in the Lindsey Hopkins #10 that eventually was bumped.
Art Pollard in the STP #40 Lola.
Dick Simon in his #44 along side, my guess, Cale Yarborogh.
Didn't Art break his leg in a crash in the #40? IIRC, Wally replaced him for the race.Originally Posted by grogg
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I knew that was Herk, the 99 I kinda figured was Harkey, the 14 is maybe McCluskey? The others I had problems with. I was 6 or 7 years old at the time. Does that Herk 56 still exist? Would love to see it in person.Originally Posted by Sea Fury
I know it wasn't Indy but didn't Dan run stock blocks at Riverside for a couple of wins?Originally Posted by DaveL
I'd have to say they won more than the Novi's or the turbines!