Looking at the photo now, I think the word on the right side of the bodywork is "ORGANISATION." I'm wondering if that's not part of "OWEN RACING ORGANISATION," which would indicate that it's probably a BRM F1 car.Originally Posted by Frank Capua
Looking at the photo now, I think the word on the right side of the bodywork is "ORGANISATION." I'm wondering if that's not part of "OWEN RACING ORGANISATION," which would indicate that it's probably a BRM F1 car.
"Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang
"If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio
I'm guessing this is it:
BRM Type 126 Chassis 01
You're probably right. My bad.
So that's a steering wheel that Pedro rubbed ragged. That's cool.
"Ride The Barrel & Get Pitted... So Pitted."
He was definitely one of the guys of that era who could Bring It. Sadly, those were tough times...
Last appearance of carburetors at IMS (I think)
'that enough wing for ya big Al??????????
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"Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
James Hurtubise, June, 1964
loved Jim Crawford too.Under-appreciated Jim Crawford. The Mac Tools cars were one of my favs...
my favorite Jim Crawford story is about the time he flipped upside down on the backstretch in the afternoon during practice. that evening, on "Trackside" on channel 6, he was being interviewed about his accident and how the team worked to get his backup car. a buddy and I watched this LIVE on a TV in a local bar (before we had any drinks OK?). when asked how his backup car compared to his primary he had wrecked, Crawford replied (on LIVE TV) something to the affect that: "the team has done a great job getting with the backup but it's just a ****-hair off!" OMG.....my buddy and I looked at each other and said: Did he just say what I THOUGHT he said???? ON TV???? too funny......
that's pretty wild what he said! Guess they don't worry so much about that word on British TV sports?!
I don't recall any wreck where he got upside down on the backstretch- there was his famous 1990 wreck in in the south short chute when he hit the wall and then air got under the car and sent it sailing VERY high, but he landed on his wheels- could this (below) be the wreck you're referring to or was there a flip no one got any pics of?
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"Charging a man with murder here was like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500."- Capt. Willard, Apocolypse Now
"Ain't nuthin' like a piece of p***y, 'cept maybe the Indy 500."- Bunny, Platoon
"To alcohol! The cause of- and solution to- all of life's problems."- Homer J. Simpson
Stick500 Crawford's wreck in 1990 happened in front of several of us sitting in the south chute bleachers. This was the first time that most of us had seen an Indycar catch major air. The emotion of the moment was shock and awe. When it was obvious that Jim was OK, the mood shifted to jubilation. This was before there was an inside catch fence so our view was not obstructed and in hind sight it seemed so surreal. For a moment it looked as if Crawford was driving or flying the car through the air.that's pretty wild what he said! Guess they don't worry so much about that word on British TV sports?!
I don't recall any wreck where he got upside down on the backstretch- there was his famous 1990 wreck in in the south short chute when he hit the wall and then air got under the car and sent it sailing VERY high, but he landed on his wheels- could this (below) be the wreck you're referring to or was there a flip no one got any pics of?
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God speed!
Such a wonderful photo of a beautiful car.
maybe this was the wreck I was thinking about. '90 would be about the right year. did the car come to a stop in the backstretch or in 2? for some reason, I was thinking the car landed upside down in the back stretch.......but hey, I'm old. I have CRS. at least I think I do.....I can't remember.
After splaching a couple Migs, it's time to head back to the barn and savour the taste of a Viceroy.
The serious business of speed at Indy. I can't find one smile in the shot of Clark working on the front of his car.
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Crawford ended up in turn two. We could see him from the short chute bleachers when he got out of the car. This happened on fast Friday.
Mears flipped in 1991 after hitting the turn two wall. His car ended up in the back stretch. He was spewing fluid in the chute and he lifted before entering T- 2, but the fluid got on his rear wheels causing him to loose control and he flipped after hitting the wall. Mears did not catch that much air as Crawford did.
In 2006 Hornish flipped in the back straight, and his car pointed skyward after he hit some debris.
Finally got a working scanner in the house again. This is the cover off the program for the 1976 Trenton Times 200
Faster than a bullet from a gun
He is faster than everyone
Quicker than the blinking of an eye
Like a flash you could miss him going by
No one knows quite how he does it but it's true they say
He's the master of going faster. -George Harrison
Don Whittington in Gordon Johncock's former car after his sudden retirement in 1985.
My first Indy 500 was 1973, haven't missed one since 1981. To date I have attended 35 Indy 500's, and probably 100 or so other IndyCar races (CART & IRL).
I believe it was shortly after this picture was taken that an ashen faced all brought the car in and said, "remove those **** wings!"
Actually I think Al and Mario both expressed concern with the new car after the initial runs when the car did not have the traditional front and rear wings and only the V radiator wings. The V wings were removed in favor of just using the traditional wing configuration. Apparently the car was very unstable, and scary without the front and rear wings. This photo shows the transitional stage betwen how the car was designed to run and how it ended up running in the race that May. The cars did fairly well on race day finishing 2nd, 3rd, and 8th.
.....'Yes, RickJones, it was infact the day of the original unveiling of the new Philippe designed Parnelli out at the Ontario Motor Speedway in very early 1972 that Vel and Parnelli hosted for the media. The car was outfitted in it's original design of only the dihedrals. And as The JP referred to, it was Al that initially took the car out and it was Mario Andretti that was quick to take notice of the look on Al's face as he climbed out of the car.
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I don't remember this car but I like the looks better without the "conventional wings." I understand the idea they were going for with the dihedral wings and in principal I would expect it to work. Was this bad execution of a good idea or is there a fundamental reason this won't work?
[BTW, when I say bad execution I mean no offense to Phillippe or Parnelli. I mean bad in sense that science of aerodynamics was not advanced enough then, but it might work with modern aerodynamic modeling and tunnels]
Congratulations to RHR, & all the winning drivers & teams in the fantastic 2012 season. Looking forward to 2013!
We are all together now. Goal 22-24 races per year split 50:50 oval:RC/SC
One they got the standard wings on it, Joe Leonard won three races and the championship in it.
They don't make 'em like Pelican Joe anymore.
He was a multi-time AMA champ and mult-time USAC champ. When Mario was hired for the '72 season, Joe quipped that winning the USAC title in '71 made him go from the Number Two driver to the Number Three driver.
The Ayn Rand of Indycar
No one had to badge the Offy.
It was asking a lot. Those 2 stubby wigs had to provide the same downforce as a combination of front and rear wings. I thing the efficiency of the wings was compromised because the saw a lot of turbulent air between the wheels. Only a small part og the wing was likely to see relatively smooth air. It would also seem that it would be quite sensitive to side winds...
The wings were supposed to keep the downforce in the center of the chassis. The main problem was that the power for the car was at the back end and the turning force was at the front end. With the wings in the center, you couldn't split up the downforce between the front and back, UNequally. Four wheel drive would have helped but it was, by that time, banned...
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