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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Capua View Post
    Wouldn't those be for the Foyt Indy engines?
    Yessir, they would, indeed, be after the "FOYT" cam covers were torqued down.

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    At the Ontario Motor Speedway garages, 72-03 (first car completed) with its temporary decor made of... contact paper by Yours Truly!
    A day later, it went 191, a full 12 MPH over the record.


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    How'd the contact paper hold up at that speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coopert54 View Post
    At the Ontario Motor Speedway garages, 72-03 (first car completed) with its temporary decor made of... contact paper by Yours Truly!
    A day later, it went 191, a full 12 MPH over the record.

    That's pretty cool, right there

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    How'd the contact paper hold up at that speed?
    Incredibly it did. If you look in the Karl Ludvigsen book, "Indy Cars ot the 1970s" on page 64, you can see on the picture, taken after the test, that some of the white paint that was hastily applied on the main body panel has peeled off, just ahead of the stylized eagle head. So the paper itself stuck OK, but the paint did not!
    You can also see it on this newspaper cut:



    I had made a sketch for Dan of what I thought the decor could be and this was one day before the car had to be tested and presented to Ozzie Olson, so there was no other way to do it except to use shelf contact paper! So I took my scissors and went to work, cutting all the decor and the lettering! So it looks a bit haphazard but after we actually painted a car properly it looked pretty good and remained the decor on the cars until 1977 when the "sidehack" replaced the 1972 evo designs.
    I did the same for the ARCO-Eagle in 1978 (in fact the Lindsey-Hopkins AAR had purchased because the Eagle construction was behind schedule), and they raced it with the contact paper on it and it stuck!

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    About 3 dozen new additions to my Champ Car/Indy Car set...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/4668198...7623324227456/

    The newest ones are at the bottom of the set page.

    Another way to view my latest additions is through the photostream...the latest additions appear first......

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/

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    Hey coopert54, that ARCO Eagle was not only a great looking race car design but, those graphics were really cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coopert54 View Post
    At the Ontario Motor Speedway garages, 72-03 (first car completed) with its temporary decor made of... contact paper by Yours Truly!
    A day later, it went 191, a full 12 MPH over the record.

    THIS is one of the most awesome posts I have ever read on TF. That is stellar! Love it.

    Was Wayne Leary the Chief on the 72 car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc sproule View Post
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/4668198...7623324227456/

    The newest ones are at the bottom of the set page.

    Another way to view my latest additions is through the photostream...the latest additions appear first......

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/
    Great stuff! thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnockOff View Post
    Great stuff! thanks!
    Thank you. You are most welcome. Just wish I had more time to spend on scanning and uploading images.

    I'll post it here when there's more added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc sproule View Post
    Thank you. You are most welcome. Just wish I had more time to spend on scanning and uploading images.

    I'll post it here when there's more added.
    Giles! More out-of-shape pics, by far, than anyone else.

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    I love the '72 Eagle pics. I can still remember the rumors of the crushing testing speeds the car was posting. The rumors sure were true. lol
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    Was Wayne Leary the Chief on the 72 car?
    Indeed. My late friend Wayne was the crew chief on the car, and was until Bobby won the 1975 "500".
    I had Bobby Unser sign this picture 3 weeks ago at the Riverside Reunion. He was very enthusiastic about the car and said that Dan and Wayne and him were the best team there was for nearly 4 years. They did win a lot of races but there was a lot of bad luck too...



    I had painted the 1975 Indy-500 winning car for a press kit that year, and I revived the old watercolor for making a card for the reunion attendees. I got mine also signed by Bobby:



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    Quote Originally Posted by indybigjohn View Post
    No date stamp or other info on this one...

    Did you take this photo of Lloyd? Thats a great shot him at Indy in the Eagle chassis that he used in three of his last five Indy runs. (1973 Commander Motor Homes #18, 1974 Unlimited Racing #9, 1976 Fairco Drugs #51)
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    It looks like Unser has his rear wing trimmed out a bit more than Ruby. Note that the back end of Unser's Eagle is cleaner than Ruby's as the intake plenum (assuming that's what it is) is not mounted above the engine. This could mean that the air flow to the wing is better and less disturbed. The result would be that the wing works better and less angle is needed...

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    So the pic of Rube and Bobby is with the smaller '74 wings? - they still look pretty big!

    those cars from '72-'74 are awesome looking- never get tired of looking at them
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    Flatlander is totally correct in his assessment. On one side, the turbo plenum sitting high gave more horsepower with the reduced boost mandatory in 1974, but the "big wings' were gone and down force was way down, so a cleaner airflow was more important than a bit more power. You can also see that Ruby's Eagle is not fitted with the oil cooler vent scoop, possibly because it was cold that day and that would reduce drag just a bit. The 48 car had a much evolved fairing there that remained on that car all the way through 1976 since the car was used for 3 full seasons until 1977 when the new offset "sidehack" Eagle was put into service. And that one had the high plenum as USAC lowered the boost again. These cars were also fitted with two sets of suspension options, narrow and wide track. Everybody abondoned the narrow track quickly in favor of the wider setup despite a huge disadvantage in overall drag, because the cars were more stable with the wider suspension. One would have believed the opposite since the longer the chassis in relation with its width, the less it would over steer... but that was not taking in consideration that the car was just as high so had greater mechanical grip and was less forgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coopert54 View Post
    Flatlander is totally correct in his assessment. On one side, the turbo plenum sitting high gave more horsepower with the reduced boost mandatory in 1974, but the "big wings' were gone and down force was way down, so a cleaner airflow was more important than a bit more power. You can also see that Ruby's Eagle is not fitted with the oil cooler vent scoop, possibly because it was cold that day and that would reduce drag just a bit. The 48 car had a much evolved fairing there that remained on that car all the way through 1976 since the car was used for 3 full seasons until 1977 when the new offset "sidehack" Eagle was put into service. And that one had the high plenum as USAC lowered the boost again. These cars were also fitted with two sets of suspension options, narrow and wide track. Everybody abondoned the narrow track quickly in favor of the wider setup despite a huge disadvantage in overall drag, because the cars were more stable with the wider suspension. One would have believed the opposite since the longer the chassis in relation with its width, the less it would over steer... but that was not taking in consideration that the car was just as high so had greater mechanical grip and was less forgiving.
    Could have been tire grip too....one's on Goodyear the other on Firestone
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    Quote Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
    It looks like Unser has his rear wing trimmed out a bit more than Ruby. Note that the back end of Unser's Eagle is cleaner than Ruby's as the intake plenum (assuming that's what it is) is not mounted above the engine. This could mean that the air flow to the wing is better and less disturbed. The result would be that the wing works better and less angle is needed...
    Also, note Ruby's open-faced helmet!!! When did full-faced helmets become mandatory?

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    I believe it was in 77. It's the only year I have seen him with one on. His son John told me that Lloyd despised the closed face helmets. In 75 and 76 he took the shield off his Bell helmet and still wore goggles.

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    new additions of old champ car pics.....

    The newest old stuff is the first stuff in my photostream.....

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/

    I've added a fair amount of new stuff from other series this month too.

    My sets..

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/sets/

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    Correction to my previous post. Lloyd wore a full face helmet in 1976 so I am going to have to guess that was the year they finally forced him to switch over.

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    I didn't see this anywhere else, so I thought it belonged here...

    http://libx.bsu.edu/cdm4/collection....T=/SatterleePh

    The Ralph Satterlee Photographs digital collection includes over 800 photographs taken by Ralph Satterlee. The photographs document Indianapolis 500 pre-race and race day events from 1960-1973.
    Ralph Satterlee was the editor and photographer of Borg-Warner's Gear-o-Gram magazine from 1944-1972. In addition to documenting company and community activities, he extensively photographed the Indianapolis 500, serving as an official Indianapolis 500 photographer from 1960-1972. Satterlee covered the presentation of the traditional Borg-Warner trophy to the winner. He also photographed activities and people throughout the month of May, including celebrities, pre-race and race events, spectators, and the cars and drivers.

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    I miss this stand for the drivers meetings, 11 rows of 3, just like the race. The portable contraption they have now just doesn't have the same effect, no rhyme or reason, other than probably more conveient and easier to haul around.

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    sorry, no pics but have to say this is an AWESOME thread. the only thing is, it said "...cool OLD Indy Car pics" so I thought it was 70's and EARLIER. guess I'm REALLY old, as I don't see 80s, 90s and up to 2007 as "old". LOL

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    What we REALLY meant was the pictures were taken by OLD guys....

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    The last one...is that the Eagle from 86 that Lammers and JP tried to get in the show?

    I love the new sig, by the way...saw it on the AMC sched, figured they'd cut the hello out of it...
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    The William Rast livery looks really odd on a '99 Dallara...

    I had no idea that place was in Kannapolis, thanks for sharing.

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