Semi official cool old Indy car pics thread

[Ovalmeister]

And why Desire failed to qualify:

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JR and the Chapparal, MIS 1981

The most beautiful car I've ever seen (the Norton Spirit PC-9B and the '82 Wildcat are a close second).

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The most beautiful car I've ever seen (the Norton Spirit PC-9B and the '82 Wildcat are a close second).

I'm with you on that too.

[sneva33]

Ed Carpenter, Indy 2007 (I think)

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Neel Jani, Road America 2007

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Little Al MIS '85

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Geez.... No wonder they used to call him Opie....
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Geez.... No wonder they used to call him Opie....
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Yeah, that was just a natural, especially with that slow, easy-going personality of his.

[beyondnascar]

There was a time when I thought Randy Travis & Lil Al looked a lot alike.

[Teej]

Bill Alsup in the 3rd Penske car, MIS 1981. Does anyone know why Roger opted to run a full-time 3rd car for this guy. Was it purely a money move or did RP really believe in Bill?

My guess, Bill Alsup was a ride buyer with AB Dick $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Alsup was disqualiified from the I500 in 1979 when he qualified with same engine used earlier by Bobby Unser at Team Penske

[Kevracer]

Alsup was disqualiified from the I500 in 1979 when he qualified with same engine used earlier by Bobby Unser at Team Penske

Was Dick Ferguson disqualified that same year for a similar infraction?

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'02 DAN WHELDON ROOKIE CARD

[IndyMJH]

Hey...keep this going...I can pick a new pic every day for my desktop.

Any pics of Chip Mead's White Castle Eagle out there?

[beyondnascar]

My guess, Bill Alsup was a ride buyer with AB Dick

Something just does not sound right in my head while reading that line!

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I believe there were four Lotus 64s built; Mario destroyed his and the other three were hidden in the US for awhile from Granatelli and STP (who were trying to take them from Lotus in a sponsorship dispute). The survivors finally made their way back to England where Chapman had them crated and stored for years. I could be wrong but it's possible that they never saw the light of day again until after Colin's death. The cars were fast but had some serious metallurgical flaws (as Mario found out) that weren't practical to fix and were never raced anywhere. Somewhere in the mid to late 1980s they were sold to various collectors. Someone here at TF may know more about these cars.

[DanicaFan7]

Here I am by the best looking car in the IndyCar Series..

[MD-IRLFAN]

I believe there were four Lotus 64s built; Mario destroyed his and the other three were hidden in the US for awhile from Granatelli and STP (who were trying to take them from Lotus in a sponsorship dispute). The survivors finally made their way back to England where Chapman had them crated and stored for years. I could be wrong but it's possible that they never saw the light of day again until after Colin's death. The cars were fast but had some serious metallurgical flaws (as Mario found out) that weren't practical to fix and were never raced anywhere. Somewhere in the mid to late 1980s they were sold to various collectors. Someone here at TF may know more about these cars.

I've never heard this information before. Interesting stuff

I'd love to hear more.

IMO this may be the best thread ever on TF.

I do have one request for those generous folks posting pictures. Whenever possible, can you please include driver/chassis/engine/year/track?

It would be greatly appreciated!

[cbreez99]

Milwaukee 1966 - taken through the fence...a beautiful car.

[sneva33]

I believe there were four Lotus 64s built; Mario destroyed his and the other three were hidden in the US for awhile from Granatelli and STP (who were trying to take them from Lotus in a sponsorship dispute). The survivors finally made their way back to England where Chapman had them crated and stored for years. I could be wrong but it's possible that they never saw the light of day again until after Colin's death. The cars were fast but had some serious metallurgical flaws (as Mario found out) that weren't practical to fix and were never raced anywhere. Somewhere in the mid to late 1980s they were sold to various collectors. Someone here at TF may know more about these cars.

I also remember them being sold off somewhere in the '80. In one of my books about Lotus (I've been trying to find it since the picture post). Chapman told his people to "... bring them back here and I will personally put a hacksaw through them". Apparently Colin was none too impressed with his own creation at that point.

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Found the book and quote. The book is "The Single Seat LOTUS Formula 1 & Indy Cars" by Doug Nye.


On page 134 Chapman told Andrew Ferguson "Andrew, bring the cars back to Hethel, where I will personally put a hacksaw through them, I will personally dig a hole, and I will personally bury them"


According to this book a London dealer (Rob Lamplough) made an agreement to purchase the remaining cars in the early 70's but Chapman vetoed the price. The matter ended up in court with the final outcome going against Lotus.

After this point I know nothing more about them.

[sneva33]

Knew I had a pic of this somewhere. This is the AB Dick Penske car at MIS in Sept of 1980. I THINK it was the first race for this sponsorship, could be wrong on that though. Do remember Mario driving and winning the race. His first victory in some time. The pic isn't great by any means but....

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Al Jr and Sr with Linda Vaughn MIS '84

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Rick Mears, 1991 Mid Ohio, Penske Chevy