Jeff Wood Indy 1995. I just always really like the graphic scheme on this helmet.
Jeff Wood Indy 1995. I just always really like the graphic scheme on this helmet.
[QUOTE=sneva33]Don't recall the driver, maybe Scott Atherton? 1987 Mid Ohio
Rick Miaskiewicz drove 3rd Machinists car at Mid-Ohio.
Rick Miaskiewicz drove 3rd Machinists car at Mid-Ohio.[/QUOTE]
Boy there's a name I do not remember. Looking at the full size pic here on my hard drive, I do see that name on the side of the car. What if anything was this guys pedigree?
Miaskiewicz raced in the Can-Am series - the mid-80's era Can-Am series - and also raced in Atlantics. I remembered the Can-Am but had to look up to discover he was 1985 series champion.Originally Posted by sneva33
Of course, Can-Am during that era is where Paul Tracy started out too.
Jeff WARD.Jeff Wood Indy 1995. I just always really like the graphic scheme on this helmet.
"Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang
"If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio
Hey I was wondering if any of you have a copy of the following that you would like to share:
dvd copies of:
1989 Pocono 500
1990 Marlboro 500
1991 Marlboro 500
1984 & 85 IndyCar yearbooks if there were any...
please let me know...
PM sent...
I assume this is the Orbitor?Steve Krisiloff (Imagining where his feet are in this photo is kinda scary).
God speed!
Nope, it`s LolaT700 - only Lola outside Newman-Haas team. Mario drove the sister car(s).
Boy there's a name I do not remember. Looking at the full size pic here on my hard drive, I do see that name on the side of the car. What if anything was this guys pedigree?[/QUOTE]
I remembered the name but forgot the when's and where's. Did a little google search and found these.
David.
It is pretty colorful huh?
Ahhhhhh....the good old days!
I can't imagine hitting a concrete wall (not a soft wall) at 200+ mph in basically an oversized aluminum soda can.
David.
This looks like one huge and fast go-kart. Safety has come a long way.I can't imagine hitting a concrete wall (not a soft wall) at 200+ mph in basically an oversized aluminum soda can.
David.
The thing that I always found amazing was how low the tub was on the sides. Basically there was only a body panel from roughly waist level, up. Indy and F-1 cars were like this for quite a while...
The "Batmobile" remains my all time favorite car in terms of appearance. In the early 80's I didn't follow Indy cars much beyond Indy. I was young. I'd like to know how this machine did on other tracks beyond IMS. Did it race on any road courses? Did Danny have any wins or good finishes?
I don't believe that any of the Interscope "Batmobiles" ever ran anywhere except Indianapolis. Danny won six Championship races in total with five of those wins on ovals. He was nearly always a contender for a win; especially in the late 1970s. I remember seeing him win a race at Michigan while driving an Interscope Parnelli that was especially memorable. Even though he had a pretty large lead Ongais didn't slow down late in the race. For the last twenty laps or so Ongais continued driving on the edge. The crowd was on their feet as Ongais' car twitched and slid up the banking a couple of times each lap on his way to the win. In those days of much lower downforce a driver still had a big influence on how fast a car would go. Ongais was certainly on top of his game that day.
That is what is so sorely missed in these days of the aero, stuck to the ground stab and steer, foot to the floor gum ball machines.
"In America, the winner goes to Victory Lane, everybody else goes to the garage and should soak their tears in their beer and figure out how to be faster next week."
Eddie Gossage
Caution: Genius at work...
Another of my oldies...
The year, 1970.
Don't know who the 12 is. No 12 is mentioned in the reports. If I had to guess I'd say Rube.
And in the 66, is Mark in the Sunoco Lola Ford.
Mark would finish second.
Yellow lines? We don need no stinkin yellow lines!
ZOOOM
Any of you geniuses want to work on the color? It's been on my wall for 50 years!
Last edited by ZOOOM; 02-09-2010 at 05:20 PM.
"Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
James Hurtubise, June, 1964
Hi ZOOM!
I'm confused...could this photo be in 1971? And could the second car possibly be David Hobbs, #68 Penske team mate to Donohue?
Memory is stretched on this one but I don't remember Ruby in this car in 1970, I could be wrong. Super cool photo regardless!!
David.
ps...Congrats on this thread reaching 100 pages! Awesome stuff!
Ruby ran this Mongoose as car number 25 in 1970 and then as car 12 in 1971. Hobbs is behind Ruby in car 68 I'd say.
Some years ago, Tommy Kendall came to the fall vintage event at WGI and my wife and I were fortunate to have lunch with him. We talked some about his big accident here, but more about the recovery and his contacts with others who had similar injuries. Now THAT was a long list...
Well, here's what I think...
hobbs was fairly well known at the time but I don't think for a minuit I would have wasted a shot on him (no offense).
Ruby was one of my favorites and i was pulling for him.
The problem is that I can find mark in a car that is EXACTLY like this one, in the '70 race. However I cannot find a number 25 finishing the race.
In '69 Gordo ran the 12 but it wasn't anything like this car.
I'd even wager 2 bucks on the second car being Mark and would wager maybe .50 on Ruby being in front....
Ok you guys.... HELP!
ZOOOM
EDIT: It's definitely not Donohue in '71 because unless Mark and Penske were just shaking down their old car, they had a pointy-nose McLaren M16 in '71.
Upon a web search, it has to be Hobbs and Ruby, '71. Looks like they ran the fancy new McLaren for Mark and the old Lola for David. That year Donohue ran the 66 McLaren, Hobbs the 68 Lola, and Ruby the 12 Mongoose.
Sea, I think you may be right.
only in '71 were there both 66 and 12 cars. in the race.
And to think for all these years I thought it was Mark...
I guess I'll have to throw it away...
ZOOOM
Ruby, 1971:
Hobbs, 1971:
Donohue, 1971:
Cool pics! The 1971 McLarens are still one of my favorite Indy cars. Sleek wedge design & beautifully prepared by both Team McLaren & Penske Racing.
I'm halfway thru the Mark Donohue biography. Just read the chapter on the 1971 Indy 500. Penske Racing was comitted to race the Lola for 1971. Penske & Donohue were in England to meet with Eric Broadley about updates for 1971. While they were in England, they stopped in at the McLaren shop to inquire about a car for the 1971 Can-Am. Once Mark saw the 1971 McLaren M16, he knew it would make a great speedway car & talked Roger into getting one. That's how Hobbs ended up in the Lola.
Oddly enough, both cars suffered gear failure during the 1971 500. Turned out that Hewland was using lower grade steel in their gears than had been requested.
It also looks like the Lola was rebodied a bit to look more like the McLaren. Also, was the Lola Ford powered? Looks like the Lola had a Ford whereas the McLaren had an Offenhauser.
The Lola was indeed Ford-powered.
I think the IRL racing future would be very promising if the new-to-be-unveiled chassis looked a lot more like that Ruby '71 or Hobbs '71 then they will. (bulkier in the middle for driver safety however)
Great thread. Thanks in particular to the photo contributors.
Got to watch out for those Libertarians - they want to take over the government and leave everyone alone!
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