I've added more champ car snaps......these are from Laguna Seca, one from '86 and the rest from '85.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/
I've added more champ car snaps......these are from Laguna Seca, one from '86 and the rest from '85.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46681980@N03/
The photos are great Marc! It would be fantastic if the resolution were higher.
Unfortunately in today's world stealing images is a booming business. I keep mine small so the temptation is less.
I've already caught more than one "business" offering my stuff for sale. I offered to let them continue if they paid me $500 per. At the time I had roughly 400 images up.
I never did get my check for c. $200K.
Actually this "person" had every single publicly viewable Flickr image availble for sale. I posted on the flickr help forum and the guy was bombarded with demand for payment and within minutes all of them were no longer available.
I reckon it's a never ending battle, but with proper tags on the pics and search engine usage one can catch some of the bad guys.
I wish things weren't this way. I'd like people to see them better too.
I have a friend in NJ who runs a old timers website mainly for NJ racing and race tracks in the NJ/PA/NY area.Originally Posted by marc sproule
Unfortunately in today's world stealing images is a booming business. I keep mine small so the temptation is less.
I've already caught more than one "business" offering my stuff for sale. I offered to let them continue if they paid me $500 per. At the time I had roughly 400 images up.
I never did get my check for c. $200K.
Actually this "person" had every single publicly viewable Flickr image availble for sale. I posted on the flickr help forum and the guy was bombarded with demand for payment and within minutes all of them were no longer available.
I reckon it's a never ending battle, but with proper tags on the pics and search engine usage one can catch some of the bad guys.
I wish things weren't this way. I'd like people to see them better too.
he had a problem with a few unscrupulous souls who were lifting images off his site and trying to sell them at shows.
since this discovery he makes people insert the name of his website and DO NOT REPRINT somewhere on each foto they add to his site.
Perhaps this is what you need to do just hide your name somewhere in a shadow or something As soon as they realize they have to look for it, they willl move on to easier sites to steal work from
Heres a link from that site to show what I mean. Can you find where they hid the ""3w"?
http://3widespicturevault.com/70spic...FLM_0070_1.htm
Faster than a bullet from a gun
He is faster than everyone
Quicker than the blinking of an eye
Like a flash you could miss him going by
No one knows quite how he does it but it's true they say
He's the master of going faster. -George Harrison
Found it in less than 5 seconds. The sad reality is that if someone wants to steal images it really isn't difficult to do so. The smaller they are though...at 72dpi, which is screen resolution...the more difficult it is to make it into something useful, other than on a website.
And to think, when I graduated from high school some 45 years ago I couldn't wait to get into the world of grownups.
Shows what I knew.
Last edited by marc sproule; 03-30-2010 at 09:40 PM. Reason: snip some verbiage
Yep - never ending. I've caught some of my product images used to sell items on ebay. In one instance the culprit cut out my copyright notice and left a white box there. When I confronted him he claimed he didn't know it was copyrighted.
"Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate."
2012 Indianapolis 500 Photo Gallery
2011 Indianapolis 500 photo gallery
In '89 I was working for Jag as their racing p.r. photog. One morning at breakfast I was pleasantly surprised to see one of my snaps as the focal point of a Jag race win ad in the business section of the SF paper.
Since no one had informed me about this I called my boss. We shared a good laugh when he told me that someone had gotten into his office and stolen the print that was used for the ad. He suggested I call the guilty party at the ad agency.
I did. I was nice at first but got rather testy when I was told that "you'll never work for us again!!"
Since I was working for Jag and not the ad agency I forcefully informed him what the fee was gonna be for using my image...it was used in all the big papers nationally and as a standup point-of-purchase display in all the dealers' showrooms. He gagged and got even nastier.
So I raised my price.
He had no choice and paid the fee, part of which bought me a nice '73 911 that I enjoyed driving for many years.
Some years later I met a woman here in Santa Cruz who was obviously from New York. When I inquired about her job she said she had just left the ad agency in question and moved out here.
I asked about Mr. Sticky Fingers and told her the story of the purloined pic. She cracked up, said the guy was "a flaming a****le" and had been fired.
Boy that sure made me feel bad.
NOT
On rare occasions there is Justice in the World...
Way to go, Marc. I love copying old photos of all kinds of races, but would never think of selling them. Like the man said, sometimes there IS justice.
I have caught people selling my images and stamping them as do not copyrite with their own stamp. Onlyclassics on ebay is ALL copyrited reproduced images. I have had several of his auctions ended with my stuff. Myself & J Mahoney have been railing him for years.....Yep - never ending. I've caught some of my product images used to sell items on ebay. In one instance the culprit cut out my copyright notice and left a white box there. When I confronted him he claimed he didn't know it was copyrighted.
The problem with this is that anyone that is skilled in Photoshop can remove these marks. I have removed people and other objects from photos that I did not not want in the picture or blocked part of the car (This has only been done on very few of our pictures because it takes a very long time.). That is why I put our company logo right on top of the car. I know it obscures the picture, but you can still see the quality of the picture (how much grain is in the picture, the sharpness of the picture, etc.). Our thumbnails do not have the watermark on them, and they are small enough and at a resolution that prohibits quality when trying to enlarge them.
We have been criticized for our watermark, but when you have invested the money that we have in obtaining these pictures, we do not want them copied. Also, some of our pictures are sold on commission via contract with people that own some of the pictures we are selling.
I know placing watermarks over the cars in pictures is not an option for historic websites wanting to show their history, but for us, it is an necessity.
Thanks,
Brad Edwards
First Turn Productions LLC.
If an image is being used on the net sometimes this site can catch it, but that happens only when the image has been added to their data bank.
http://www.tineye.com/
It's worth a try.
Don't forget there are bazillions of images out there so it's not a foolproof way of catching the bad guys.
Thank you for posting that site. We need to all work together to stop these thieves.
I for one truly appreciate those that have pics to post here.
There hasn't been any for awhile!!
"You just don't know what Indy Means" Al Unser Jr.
Ok... Here's a golden oldie!
The Maistro at work, Milwaukee, I think about 1972, 38 years ago...
ZOOOM
"Doc, just set them fingers sose I can hold the wheel"
James Hurtubise, June, 1964
Sweet!
"We are all speeding toward our deaths at 60 minutes an hour." Sid Collins on Race Day, 1964
That looks like a car from 1975/1976.
We drive 800 miles every year to see them go 500 miles. And we're glad to do it.
The '72 Coyote looked like an Eagle. The Riley designed shovel nose wasn't introduced until '73 and it looked slightly different in that the radiator inlet was much larger.
Joohyah is correct, it's from '75/'76.
I think one reason why we aren't posting as frequently is because we've plumb run out of good pictures to post. I know I have.
The Ayn Rand of Indycar
No one had to badge the Offy.
Coolest helmet EVER!
ZOOOM
Penzoil pits, Milwaukee, Yellow submarine. JR doing the chaufering. This is Betty, his wife, and Jim Hall with the headphones on...
ZOOOM
Zoom,Ok... Here's a golden oldie!
The Maistro at work, Milwaukee, I think about 1972, 38 years ago...
ZOOOM
I think this photo may be from 1977 or later. AJ's car in your photo has the skirt for ground effects aero along the bottom, and the aero devices in front of the front wheels was added much later than 1973 when this car style was first introduced.
God speed!
.....'Hey ZOOM! 'I'm sure glad that when you posted the pic of Betty and Jim Hall, you were careful not to mention the year. Because I would have hated to have had to "blow you out of the water" if you were wrong! Just remember, what you post and say here on TrackForum, can and will be held against you in a court of law!!! Thanks again, ZOOM!
Well, looking closely at the umbrella that would indicate the picture was taken in......naaaah...we're good, but we're not that good
Looks like the now defunct Milwaukee Mile.
Easily one of my favorite ovals.
Bobby Rahal 1992 Miller Lola Chevy.
Emmo, 1995. This is the imfamous Penske that couldn't. It sure looked nice.
Jacques Villeneuve at Phoenix 1995. It's hard to beleve that this was 15 years ago. This was my last race at Phoenix.
Michael Andretti leaving the pits at Pheonix in 1995. I think that's papa Mario at the top by the fuel rig.
Al Unser JR. at Phoenix 1995.
It looks like a beautiful, early-morning practice judging by the sun angle.Emmo, 1995. This is the imfamous Penske that couldn't. It sure looked nice.
Early morning practice sessions in May are a beautiful thing.
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