View Poll Results: How old are you and how do you feel about the DW?

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  • 0-35, I like the "concept" and I like the car

    25 8.87%
  • 0-35, I like the "concept" but dislike the car

    55 19.50%
  • 0-35, I dislike the "concept" and I dislike the car

    37 13.12%
  • 35-55, I like the "concept" and I like the car

    36 12.77%
  • 35-55, I like the "concept" but dislike the car

    52 18.44%
  • 35-55, I dislike the "concept" and I dislike the car

    46 16.31%
  • 56-106, I like the "concept" and I like the car

    8 2.84%
  • 56-106, I like the "concept" but dislike the car

    10 3.55%
  • 56-106, I dislike the "concept" and I dislike the car

    13 4.61%
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Thread: The Delta Wing and Fan Age Demographics

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  1. #1
    I like the "concept" but dislike the car

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    As a lifelong indycar fan I will never attend another Indy 500, Race, or watch/follow the sport on television if this abomination is allowed to run.

    Never have been more embarrassed to be an AOW fan.

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    From what I've seen over the last few days, I've found almost no one is against the concept. The look, eh, another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishin
    As a lifelong indycar fan I will never attend another Indy 500, Race, or watch/follow the sport on television if this abomination is allowed to run.

    Never have been more embarrassed to be an AOW fan.
    You aren't the only one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishin
    As a lifelong indycar fan I will never attend another Indy 500, Race, or watch/follow the sport on television if this abomination is allowed to run.

    Never have been more embarrassed to be an AOW fan.

    Its a concept. You are embarrassed, because someone had an idea and the product didn't look like the same regurgitated garbage you are so used to seeing week in and week out?

    I don't know what to say to someone whos fandom is so shallow that the aesthetics of a car will drive them away forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleFive
    Its a concept. You are embarrassed, because someone had an idea and the product didn't look like the same regurgitated garbage you are so used to seeing week in and week out?

    I don't know what to say to someone whos fandom is so shallow that the aesthetics of a car will drive them away forever.
    What if the aesthetics attracted them to the sport in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo
    What if the aesthetics attracted them to the sport in the first place?
    Then they should be tired of seeing the same car now for the last 25 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP
    Then they should be tired of seeing the same car now for the last 25 years.
    Lets hope your wife doesn't read this forum

    I'm 31 and I love the concept of a low drag, low downforce car that is cheaper to build and maintain. I absolutely hate how this car looks. Since this is a case where all the cars on the grid will look like this I'm am strongly against this.

    Nothing would be better than a car with low drag, low downforce and a ton of torque. Let's separate the men from the boys and the girls from the women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcmark611
    Lets hope your wife doesn't read this forum

    I'm 31 and I love the concept of a low drag, low downforce car that is cheaper to build and maintain. I absolutely hate how this car looks. Since this is a case where all the cars on the grid will look like this I'm am strongly against this.

    Nothing would be better than a car with low drag, low downforce and a ton of torque. Let's separate the men from the boys and the girls from the women.
    You may want to read what the DW Group and the designer has actually said. The 'open source' approach could very well mean that not a single car on the grid would look like this.

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    I think this thread hits the point that most are missing. Has anyone asked themselves why Hot Wheels makes a toy cars that look like this. I have to believe that it is because they sell!!! I would guess that most kids who would see this car would think that it is awesome and futuristic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashcab Dummy
    I think this thread hits the point that most are missing. Has anyone asked themselves why Hot Wheels makes a toy cars that look like this. I have to believe that it is because they sell!!! I would guess that most kids who would see this car would think that it is awesome and futuristic.
    Excellent point!!!

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    The original question puts a great deal of faith in Kalkoven and Bowbly's assertion that the younger generation will be attracted to the sport because of this design. And I'm calling off base on it. I don't give either of them the market research credentials to have them lead with that idea.

    The major flaw in that thinking is your potential new young fan base changes their interests quickly. The kid who loves this design at age 8 will have moved on from the sport by the time he's 11 same as every other age group. Why do you think trading in and reselling of video games is such a big business, play the game a while and lose interest. Would anyone care to tell me again how drifting has become a huge force in motorsports? Younger generations find what's hot, have fun and move on to the next hot thing. Thinking that the flavor of the month was going to be the future lost Kalkoven plenty of money shopping street festivals around the globe.

    This sport can grow, succeed and thrive but not on a fantasy of instant solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28
    The original question puts a great deal of faith in Kalkoven and Bowbly's assertion that the younger generation will be attracted to the sport because of this design. And I'm calling off base on it. I don't give either of them the market research credentials to have them lead with that idea.

    The major flaw in that thinking is your potential new young fan base changes their interests quickly. The kid who loves this design at age 8 will have moved on from the sport by the time he's 11 same as every other age group. Why do you think trading in and reselling of video games is such a big business, play the game a while and lose interest. Would anyone care to tell me again how drifting has become a huge force in motorsports? Younger generations find what's hot, have fun and move on to the next hot thing. Thinking that the flavor of the month was going to be the future lost Kalkoven plenty of money shopping street festivals around the globe.

    This sport can grow, succeed and thrive but not on a fantasy of instant solutions.
    Kalkhoven is the last guy anybody should be listening to.

  14. #14
    Many purists will not like the non-open wheel ness.

    I LOVE the idea (concept) but the car is well.. meh.

    I would have liked an all wheel drive car that looked more traditional, or if you went delta, invert it. My inverted delta, I mean rear tires close together, with an engine behind the driver, and the nose more aerodynamic.

    Money is always a question, but technology is there to hit 1000 pounds with driver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashcab Dummy
    I think this thread hits the point that most are missing. Has anyone asked themselves why Hot Wheels makes a toy cars that look like this. I have to believe that it is because they sell!!! I would guess that most kids who would see this car would think that it is awesome and futuristic.
    Yes - They sell because they appeal to children.

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    At 68, if the car looked like a Watson roadster and could run safely at current speeds I'd love both the concept and the car.

    As it is, somebody needs to think outside the box to rescue IndyCar, and the concept is better than any other ideas I've seen.

    I don't like the car any more (or less) than I like the Hotwheels proposed by the competing manufacturers, but I certainly don't dislike it as a place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashcab Dummy
    I think this thread hits the point that most are missing. Has anyone asked themselves why Hot Wheels makes a toy cars that look like this. I have to believe that it is because they sell!!! I would guess that most kids who would see this car would think that it is awesome and futuristic.
    yeah, but if it alienates their parents who is going to take them to the track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSJracing
    yeah, but if it alienates their parents who is going to take them to the track?
    Their uncle... he's a bit more open-minded.

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    This "thing" is butt ugly if this is the future I think its time to rethink being a NASCAR fan

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    27 years old, half like the concept (to be honest i don't care about the drag affect of the open wheels - open wheel is open wheel. End of) and do not like the Delta Wing car in the slightest. Looking forward to seeing the Lola designs. Swifts are good though.

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