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"You know what the trouble about real life is? There's no danger music." - Jim Carey
Exactly. I never cheered for the eagle. I cheered for Bobby Unser.
Speaking of horses, who was the winning jockey on Mine That Bird in the Kentucky Derby?
let me know the last... nay... first time anyone has bet on or cheered and screamed for the jockey in a horse race
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And get back to me when a car design revives AOW racing...especially one with fenders...
When I first became a racing fan, I cheered for whoever drove a Ford. Indy, NASCAR, I was a Ford guy. Over time, both series lost that connection.Originally Posted by Indymarlin
In NASCAR's case, they decided to focus on the drivers which made sense when they had stars. Then they tried to create stars and rivalries out of thin air and it didn't take.
This article gets it wrong. Its both car and driver.
Great driver no matter where they are from, and sleek innovative racing machine that breaks speed records. That's what is necessary. Always has been.
For me, the cars are more interesting since that's what I see when I get to the track or on tv. In no particular order I really liked the: McLaren M16, Gurney Eagle, the Chapparal, Swift and Lola.Originally Posted by millrace
For 2012, I'm hoping that all the contenders are able to run as I like the variety and for the most part, all the designs. The Delta Wing is a bit strange to look at, but I would give it a change as well.
Originally Posted by millrace
Hence to the rush to make changes to the COT while at the same time taking the clamps off the driver to revive the quickly waning fan interest.
Article is right on.
First up, I'm not American, so I can't get into the whole "American drivers will save indycar" thing.
To be honest I've never understood it. Maybe it's because I'm an outsider.
Maybe it's because I was a fan of ChampCar ... (flame on)
Anthony Schoettle says that last time he checked "America is still the most sought after global market, with an expendable income base, even in a bad economy, like no other country."
It's that kind of thinking that has left AOWR in the dark ages.
If Anthony Schoettle checks his figures again in a few years time and finds that China is the most sought after market, will he change his tune? Should Indycar have mostly Chinese drivers? Or just Asian drivers? I don't think he really means what he says.
The height of popularity of AOWR in the USA happened when there were many "foreign" drivers. CART continued to pull bigger and bigger crowds in the mid 90s in the US, even with many of those "foreigners" driving.
Maybe the AOWR war prevented the sport from expanding, maybe it was the pathetic Indycars, maybe it was the cheapening of Indy, or the lack of a a fan-base, but the foreign drivers are just a small part of the equation.
I think foreign drivers are a huge red-herring. Ride-buyers may be a part of the problem, but to blame it on "foreigners" is just ridiculous.
Originally Posted by themarkyOr understands it, maybe.Originally Posted by themarkyCan you back that up?Originally Posted by themarky
No, but a racing series in China will and should.Originally Posted by themarky
It's a miniscule minority, those from other countries that take note of USA OW racing. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's statistically insignificant and not reflective of reality in the USA.Originally Posted by themarky
Your premise that a USA-based racing series MUST appeal to a worldwide audience is simply in error.
No, maybe you didn't. But the Museum at the Speedway houses a very nice collection of cars that the fans never seem to tire of. I found it very interesting to trace the lineage, so to speak.Originally Posted by Indymarlin
So while the cars may not be the stars of the series, they certainly play an important supporting role.
It's a spec series now, thus the cars by definition are a non-issue.
That's pretty funny. The Chinese are bit "controlling" compared to the US. Their drivers would train in some national driving school from age 3 until 18. No one else would get a chance.Originally Posted by lkchris
And that's what's different here. Everyone gets a chance. But in life there are winners and losers and losers are the ones who complain that "foreigners are getting all the good stuff" !
Sam Hornish is a winners. And that's why he was driving for Penske at the end of his Indycar career. He earned it. And he happened to be an American.