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    The View From The Hairpin - 2012 IZOD IndyCar Series

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    Some fans claim one series or another runs "real race cars." What's everybody else running, fake race cars? :confused:

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    Red Line, too.

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    Wow, talk about an early start!
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    All the current FT teams + Fisher + RLLR + Schmidt + Herta + Walker + AFS should be in the mix. Is Vision done completely?

    And we do have a good number of confirmed drivers already

    Vitor at Foyt
    Marco/RHR at Andretti Autosport (Marco has Venom for 2 more years and RHR has DHL for 2012 at least)
    Tag at FAZZT has a contract through 2013
    Simona has Entergy at HVM for 2012/13
    Hildebrand has at least a 2-year deal with Panther

    Graham has Service Central through 2012... one would presume they'll be back at Ganassi.

    Per Bernard on "Inside Track" a couple weeks ago, they expect 24 FT cars for the first race in 2012. Only a couple of the current team owners have expressed concerns that they may need loans/etc to be able to buy the new cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehairpin View Post
    With all of the 2012 rumors, I decided to follow MikaF1Fan's suggestion and post a thread (but not necessarily a list) now,

    Rumored 2012 teams

    - Wayne Taylor Racing (Dallara-Chevy)
    - Highcroft Racing (?-Honda)
    - SH Racing (Team REDLINE Xtreme) (?-?)

    will add list of current teams and potential chassis-engine combos soon
    I appreciate your efforts but I believe this is what Shrinks call overcompensation. You, and we, are so frustrated with the current season driver list that you are jumping into 2012 a "bit" early. ;-)
    Congratulations to RHR, & all the winning drivers & teams in the fantastic 2012 season. Looking forward to 2013!
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    Post on page 1.

    Also, will we combine the list from the aero kit/engine thread to this one?
    We drive 800 miles every year to see them go 500 miles. And we're glad to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joonyah View Post
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    Yea Me too!!!

    Also, wasn't SSM considering the big cars again?
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    Didn't Herta say he was going to be running an Indycar team in 2012?

    Oops, nevermind. Saw Fro already mentioned it up there.
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    I wonder if Red Bull will have a team in 2012?

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    further update coming tonight or tomorrow

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    I'd be shocked if Vitor lasts until 2012 with Foyt.

    In fact, I am surprised he's still there after the "meh" results they've had together. He's dumped better drivers then Vitor far earlier.

    Maybe Tex gets rewarded for his patience. Kinda doubt it at this point though.
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    Can we start the 2013 thread too?

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    Wow! This is almost like the election cycles. The day after the 2010 elections, we start on 2012!

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    Tony Stewart Racing already speaking with GM about a 2012 Indy Car team.

    If so, there is your team for Bryan Clauson in Indy Cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Tony Stewart Racing already speaking with GM about a 2012 Indy Car team.

    If so, there is your team for Bryan Clauson in Indy Cars.
    Woah, how'd you find that out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlor View Post
    Woah, how'd you find that out?
    Robin spilled the beans last night on WT.

    I had heard that Tony and GM were already kicking the tires about a Indy Car operation and Robin verified it.

    I think this is great news if you want to see Chevy get back into Indy Cars full-bore. You get Roger Penske, Chip Ganassi, Panther and Tony Stewart as your 4 signature teams and you make a statement.

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    Ah, yes, I missed WT, and brainless Speed TV doesn't reair it until the morning.

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    If Davey retires, will Hamilton racing move up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Robin spilled the beans last night on WT.

    I had heard that Tony and GM were already kicking the tires about a Indy Car operation and Robin verified it.

    I think this is great news if you want to see Chevy get back into Indy Cars full-bore. You get Roger Penske, Chip Ganassi, Panther and Tony Stewart as your 4 signature teams and you make a statement.
    I'm really curious to see how the engine manfacturer support will work this time. If Chevy gets both Ganassi teams, I would guess Honda will ramp up support for at least AGR, but I don't think that would be enough to compete with the 7 car Penske/Ganassi juggernaut. Who might Honda add as other "signature teams." Nunn, Fernendez, and Rahal-Letterman are all gone and the next best team in terms of ability to field quick cars is KVR who will obviously be with Lotus. Who might Honda choose at that point? All the remaining teams other than Newman-Haas are fairly unproven.

    This doesn't even account for Lotus. If Honda and Chevy are agressive in affiliating with teams again there won't be many quality teams to choose from other than Newman Haas, and my guess is Honda swipes them up quickly.

    Lastly, what if the rumors of a 4th engine manufactuer for 2013 are true? Who in the world are they going to affiliate with?

    I guess long story short, is this is why having multiple manufacturers is really positive for the sport if managed correctly. All the teams will likely benefit financially either directly or indirectly. When you do the math it seems there aren't enough current teams to go around, so maybe we will see teams new to the series or some of the part-time teams step up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Tony Stewart Racing already speaking with GM about a 2012 Indy Car team.

    If so, there is your team for Bryan Clauson in Indy Cars.
    Now THAT would be interesting...
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    List updated. I'm really not as concerned about drivers (those aren't even set for 2011 yet) as I am about new teams and how the chassis and engine affiliations will fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    Tony Stewart Racing already speaking with GM about a 2012 Indy Car team.

    If so, there is your team for Bryan Clauson in Indy Cars.
    I'd love to see Stewart run an Indy Car operation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS View Post
    I'd love to see Stewart run an Indy Car operation!
    I think we all would, or at least the vast majority. Just having him start the team would generate publicity and interest from fans, and who could argue with a racer starting a new team.

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    [QUOTE=Todd Gack;2545241]Tony Stewart Racing already speaking with GM about a 2012 Indy Car team.
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    yea, tony has never tried to trick people about indycar before has he - where is the aj/tony photo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS View Post
    I'd love to see Stewart run an Indy Car operation!

    where were you when he did?

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    SSM moved from potential to current, replacing FAZZT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndcrs View Post
    where were you when he did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Noonan View Post
    I'm really curious to see how the engine manfacturer support will work this time. If Chevy gets both Ganassi teams, I would guess Honda will ramp up support for at least AGR, but I don't think that would be enough to compete with the 7 car Penske/Ganassi juggernaut. Who might Honda add as other "signature teams." Nunn, Fernendez, and Rahal-Letterman are all gone and the next best team in terms of ability to field quick cars is KVR who will obviously be with Lotus. Who might Honda choose at that point? All the remaining teams other than Newman-Haas are fairly unproven.

    This doesn't even account for Lotus. If Honda and Chevy are agressive in affiliating with teams again there won't be many quality teams to choose from other than Newman Haas, and my guess is Honda swipes them up quickly.

    Lastly, what if the rumors of a 4th engine manufactuer for 2013 are true? Who in the world are they going to affiliate with?

    I guess long story short, is this is why having multiple manufacturers is really positive for the sport if managed correctly. All the teams will likely benefit financially either directly or indirectly. When you do the math it seems there aren't enough current teams to go around, so maybe we will see teams new to the series or some of the part-time teams step up.
    I thought Randy was going to implement some rules against "factory" teams.


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    Originally Posted by ndcrs
    where were you when he did?



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    I think that's what he means.
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    you forgot Penske

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