The View From The Hairpin - 2012 IZOD IndyCar Series

[thehairpin]

By the way, we reached this point in terms of thread length on March 4th last year.

Discussion centered around Hinchcliffe being out of money, whether Luzco Dragon would make the grid, and just how much funding Vernay had to bring to the table. At least until the "Firestone out of IICS" bomb was dropped.

Whoa! Have things changed.

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/sho...-Series/page61

[Fro]

Same wavelength as I'm thinking along. The issue with the 2nd Conquest and the 2nd HVM isn't so much whether the team would run the car if the funding became available (they would), but whether Lotus would turn them down or tell them to wait until Indy to start (Indy-onward FT) because of the parts shortage.

Yeah, I'm waiting for Pruett's update because he's been a lot more thorough than Cavin.

As far as Panther goes, Hildebrand did make these comments that point to them being a one-car team

http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-...th-hildebrand/

Without a doubt, I think this year it’s even more important than it has been in years past. I think a big piece of that is being able to gage how quickly other people are figuring things out, especially for us going into the season as a one car team, going into testing where there are a bunch of other cars we really get a feel. It’s always hard to tell what people are doing, and what strategies they have, but in this day and age there is rarely sand bagging on test days, and I think that will be a big piece of it.

No reason to make any updates until Pruett's story comes out, though.

[piercey]

On a IndyCar and FIL related note: everything Krohn is saying on Twitter points to him gone to sportscars for awhile. Sounds like he hitched up with some Mazda factory backing.

[Mr.]

Yeah, I'm waiting for Pruett's update because he's been a lot more thorough than Cavin.

As far as Panther goes, Hildebrand did make these comments that point to them being a one-car team

http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-...th-hildebrand/



No reason to make any updates until Pruett's story comes out, though.

If Panther were going to be a 2-car team, they'd already have Rice or whoever out there with JR. I'd expect to see them run a part time car later in the season.

[thehairpin]

Yeah, I'm waiting for Pruett's update because he's been a lot more thorough than Cavin.

As far as Panther goes, Hildebrand did make these comments that point to them being a one-car team

http://www.indycar.com/news/show/55-...th-hildebrand/



No reason to make any updates until Pruett's story comes out, though.

Thanks for the link. I've got an idea of where I'm going with tonight's update, but I'm waiting for the Pruett story before making any changes to the actual list.

[BretEarl]

I just drove by there but we are in the middle of a bad snow storm or maybe I would of checked in on some things going on in Elgin.LOL.

[aaron5572]

Dear ARMA Energy,

I've heard you might be sponsoring Paul Tracy next season in the IZOD IndyCar Series. I want to buy your product in supporting Paul, but since there's no announcement yet, I just keep waiting to give you my money.

- Signed, an IndyCar fan.

you need to send them that

[BuddyCarSeries]

you need to send them that

I wrote on there Fbook page wall.

[Tara]

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"It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone."

[raskav]

Any word on Bia?
I know she came back to Indy to take physical and she seemed to be tweeting a lot lately.
But I don't sense the desperation from her like Pippa.

I'm hoping for DRR#2 for her.

[Justhalc]

Any word on Bia?
I know she came back to Indy to take physical and she seemed to be tweeting a lot lately.
But I don't sense the desperation from her like Pippa.

I'm hoping for DRR#2 for her.

I'm hoping she goes back to Brazil

[raskav]

I'm hoping she goes back to Brazil

In other words, you don't have a effing clue about Bia's situation.
thanks for your insight.

[BuddyCarSeries]

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"It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone."

I know. The first part was my senior quote. I do have the entire quote with a Bruce McLaren Orange border in a nice frame right above my bed.

[nascarfan71080]

I hope SFHR ,ECR and Conquest can get an engine because it would suck if the engine manufactures turn teams away.

[Hawkes]

I hope SFHR ,ECR and Conquest can get an engine because it would suck if the engine manufactures turn teams away.

My understanding is that they can have the Lotus engine right now but they're holding out for a Honda or Chevy.

[JMFVET]

My understanding is that they can have the Lotus engine right now but they're holding out for a Honda or Chevy.

Nope. They have no engines but want Chevy or Honda.
Apparently, even if they agree to taking a Lotus engine they won't get it in the car "for awhile" because Lotus hasn't built enough engines due to a parts shortage. "awhile" could be a month or an hour before practice starts at St Pete.

[smuff76]

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"It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone."

I've always preferred Coolidge:


* * *“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race”

[AFColt]

Crunch time for Pippa:

PippaMann Pippa Mann
Good morning! Some pretty big meetings about me and #Indycar 2012 happening over next 24-48 hours... #PleasePleasePleaseSayYES!!!!!

[Glenn]

I've always preferred Coolidge:


* * *“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race”

[Hawkes]

Nope. They have no engines but want Chevy or Honda.
Apparently, even if they agree to taking a Lotus engine they won't get it in the car "for awhile" because Lotus hasn't built enough engines due to a parts shortage. "awhile" could be a month or an hour before practice starts at St Pete.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

[Aeron]

For the first time in over a decade it looks like the Indycar field will be deeper and more competitive...

[Langhorne]

For the first time in over a decade it looks like the Indycar field will be deeper and more competitive than NASCAR.

That might be just a wee bit of a reach. And the strenght of the field is definetely offset by the weakness of the schedule.

[AFColt]

That might be just a wee bit of a reach. And the strenght of the field is definetely offset by the weakness of the schedule.

I won't compare to NASCAR, mainly because it's a good way to derail a thread and what they do has no bearing on my enjoyment of the IICS, but I will say I am immensely pleased with the caliber of the field overall so far, with the promise of more goodness to come.

With any luck, we see another driver or two announced this week.

[flyfishin]

I've always preferred Coolidge:


* * *“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race”

are you a brother of Phi Gamma Delta, like myself and Brother Penske and Rahal? Since Pres Coolidge was a Phi Gam (Amherst College class of 1894) we drive that quote home quite often during pledgeship.

[JMFVET]

What ever happened to the mystery Lotus team?

[AFColt]

We still don't know.

[John R]

are you a brother of Phi Gamma Delta, like myself and Brother Penske and Rahal? Since Pres Coolidge was a Phi Gam (Amherst College class of 1894) we drive that quote home quite often during pledgeship.

hey flyfishin... Perge!

Proverbs 27:17! Zeta PC '08

(haha there have been some rare sightings of a Gamma here in Indiana recently)

[The Stickman]

I won't compare to NASCAR, mainly because it's a good way to derail a thread and what they do has no bearing on my enjoyment of the IICS, but I will say I am immensely pleased with the caliber of the field overall so far, with the promise of more goodness to come.

With any luck, we see another driver or two announced this week.

Ok where the heck are they all coming from I mean really last year this time if anyone said we would have this many drivers and teams competing in 2012 let alone annouced by this time they would have been taken off to the funny farm.

[smuff76]

are you a brother of Phi Gamma Delta, like myself and Brother Penske and Rahal? Since Pres Coolidge was a Phi Gam (Amherst College class of 1894) we drive that quote home quite often during pledgeship.

Alpha Eta chapter of the Kappa Alpha Order

[secondcity_kyle]

Alpha Eta chapter of the Kappa Alpha Order

current member of Zeta Lambda chapter of Kappa Alpha Order