2013 Race Schedule

[mitchbr]

I believe the intention for Michael/Randy was to give Milwaukee 2 or 3 years to rebound, but there had to be progress. If 15,000 showed up again, it would have been off.

Michigan hosted races in late September for USAC/CART for many years. Penske sounded like he would be fine with it, by the way, especially if it was 3 months after his race. I don't expect MIS in 2013 though. I just don't see the track wishing to dole out the money.

Belle Isle and Road America can operate separate of the oval races up there. It's not like Cleveland vs. Mid-Ohio, which would be a mistake.

I gotta say you're on point there. I think MIS & Belle Isle would work, as well as Milwaukee & RA. Don't think we'll see MIS next year either. Honestly I'm a little scared if it gets the nod to replace China. It was poorly attended in the past, even with a year or more for the race to be promoted. But just 3 months (give or take a few weeks) to get the word out? IndyCar should consider 10,000 a win. I know I'm being negative here, but I'm not gonna lie. Racing would be great, but aluminum doesn't cheer, boo, or buy tickets, hot dogs, beers, etc


On a separate note, and I hate to be complaining again, but Belle Isle has to be on a different date. I know we all want Milwaukee the week after Indy, but for Gossage's sake let's go Indy - Texas - Milwaukee - Belle Isle next year. Dates don't change by more than two weeks, so it shouldn't hurt the crowd like changing Kentucky's date two months.

Regardless, excited to see what our new race is, and hope the drivers and teams put on a strong show there.

[Indymarlin]

Here are a few reminders from Curt Cavin's Indystar.com Q&A today.

Houston is added to the mix, and Randy has been talking about Fort Lauderdale. Difficult to say what else could be in the mix. Maybe Laguna Seca. As for removals, there has been talk of not continuing at Sonoma, and if I remember right Edmonton is in the last year of its contract. We’ll have to see how Baltimore works under the new promoter, and I’d say Auto Club is iffy if IndyCar takes this season-ending race elsewhere.

http://blogs.indystar.com/racingexpe...-and-michigan/

[mitchbr]

I heard this weekend St Pete will be moved up a week or two and Phoenix will be two weeks after. If I understand correctly, St Pete would be Mar 10 and Phoenix on the 31st. Not sure where that leaves Barber since that was its weekend.

Time will tell

[Indymarlin]

If that is true, that would be very good.

[aaron5572]

I heard this weekend St Pete will be moved up a week or two and Phoenix will be two weeks after. If I understand correctly, St Pete would be Mar 10 and Phoenix on the 31st. Not sure where that leaves Barber since that was its weekend.

Time will tell

wouldn't one assume that Barber would be March 17th, 1 week after St. Pete gives teams an off-week before an oval

[irlracingfan]

wouldn't one assume that Barber would be March 17th, 1 week after St. Pete gives teams an off-week before an oval

I am NOT in favor of the "off-week" thing. I would like to see IndyCars on track for twenty-two consecutive weeks, counting opening weekend and qualifying at Indy, plus twenty races. Maybe an off week for Easter, depending on when that is... but I do NOT want to see lulls and inconsistency in the schedule. I think that hurts the Series.

[cdnojibwedude]

I heard this weekend St Pete will be moved up a week or two and Phoenix will be two weeks after. If I understand correctly, St Pete would be Mar 10 and Phoenix on the 31st. Not sure where that leaves Barber since that was its weekend.

Time will tell

As long as St. Petersburg is not run the same weekend as the 12 Hours of Sebring.

[SoundMan360]

As long as St. Petersburg is not run the same weekend as the 12 Hours of Sebring.

Sebring is Saturday, March 16, 2013.

[TexManZero]

I am NOT in favor of the "off-week" thing. I would like to see IndyCars on track for twenty-two consecutive weeks, counting opening weekend and qualifying at Indy, plus twenty races. Maybe an off week for Easter, depending on when that is... but I do NOT want to see lulls and inconsistency in the schedule. I think that hurts the Series.

Bingo. When you are going after an American audience you have to be going full on until the end. Having two and three week breaks really hurts the flow of the series.

[Mikemat5150]

I am NOT in favor of the "off-week" thing. I would like to see IndyCars on track for twenty-two consecutive weeks, counting opening weekend and qualifying at Indy, plus twenty races. Maybe an off week for Easter, depending on when that is... but I do NOT want to see lulls and inconsistency in the schedule. I think that hurts the Series.

You've got to have weeks off every once and awhile though. Imagine you're part of a team and you go nonstop for twenty odd weeks. If we could go like four five races consecutively and then a weekend off I think it would be the best. It's just going to run everyone ragged. F1 put in their summer break because the crew members were getting run wild.

[TimmyZ1]

Bingo. When you are going after an American audience you have to be going full on until the end. Having two and three week breaks really hurts the flow of the series.

I am NOT in favor of the "off-week" thing. I would like to see IndyCars on track for twenty-two consecutive weeks, counting opening weekend and qualifying at Indy, plus twenty races. Maybe an off week for Easter, depending on when that is... but I do NOT want to see lulls and inconsistency in the schedule. I think that hurts the Series.

Says the guys who don't have to pay employee expenses to turn those same cars around. One of the reasons the big boys over in NASCAR have such large employee bases is because of the length of schedule and lack of breaks in said schedule. Penske is the biggest team in ICS and they have 100 employees maybe? For 3 full time cars. Its not the drivers you need to worry about its the teams.

[TimmyZ1]

I hesitated to put this out here because this guy has an obvious ax to grind against IMS, ICS, and RB but it appears that Phoenix has a strong shot coming back.

http://www.usatoday.com/USCP/PNI/Spo...NIBrd_ST_U.htm

[jandj]

As well as they raced at Iowa, I'd love to see 'em back @ RIR.

[Racing Truth]

So, let's first pencil in what we KNOW is on the schedule, not worrying about dates:

St. Pete
Long Beach
Barber
Sao Paulo
Indianapolis
Belle Isle, sadly
Milwaukee
Iowa
Toronto
On edit, Houston

Am I missing others (is M-O under contract?)?

[mitchbr]

wouldn't one assume that Barber would be March 17th, 1 week after St. Pete gives teams an off-week before an oval

I just realized the 10th and 31st are 3 weeks apart. Let me clarify Phoenix would be TWO WEEKS after St. Pete, from what I'm hearing. Maybe St. Pete the 17th, Barber 24th and Phoenix 31st? SP 10th Barber 17th Phoenix 24th? Don't know. Sorry for the conflicting information.

[Z28]

I just realized the 10th and 31st are 3 weeks apart. Let me clarify Phoenix would be TWO WEEKS after St. Pete, from what I'm hearing. Maybe St. Pete the 17th, Barber 24th and Phoenix 31st? SP 10th Barber 17th Phoenix 24th? Don't know. Sorry for the conflicting information.

Start factoring in what matters to Phoenix International Raceway. Their 2013 brochure, per jayski, lists their Spring NASCAR weekend as March 1-3.

They won't want to have an Indycar race two weeks after their NASCAR event, NO track does. The closest spread in dates most any place will accept is four weeks, check schedules and find more than a single example out of how many tracks and how many racing series.

The best bet for Phoenix would be the end of March or early April. Then you could move Barber up a week, go to Phoenix stay out west for Long Beach before packing for Brazil.

[TimmyZ1]

Start factoring in what matters to Phoenix International Raceway. Their 2013 brochure, per jayski, lists their Spring NASCAR weekend as March 1-3.

They won't want to have an Indycar race two weeks after their NASCAR event, NO track does. The closest spread in dates most any place will accept is four weeks, check schedules and find more than a single example out of how many tracks and how many racing series.

The best bet for Phoenix would be the end of March or early April. Then you could move Barber up a week, go to Phoenix stay out west for Long Beach before packing for Brazil.

April 13th is what Knight is speculating

[Scuff]

Start factoring in what matters to Phoenix International Raceway. Their 2013 brochure, per jayski, lists their Spring NASCAR weekend as March 1-3.

They won't want to have an Indycar race two weeks after their NASCAR event, NO track does. The closest spread in dates most any place will accept is four weeks, check schedules and find more than a single example out of how many tracks and how many racing series.

The best bet for Phoenix would be the end of March or early April. Then you could move Barber up a week, go to Phoenix stay out west for Long Beach before packing for Brazil.

By all accounts, Barber is a successful venue. Why would anyone move the date even one week ? Personally, rather see Phoenix than Barber...........but jacking dates around has historically not been a positive step.

[Racing Truth]

By all accounts, Barber is a successful venue. Why would anyone move the date even one week ? Personally, rather see Phoenix than Barber...........but jacking dates around has historically not been a positive step.

One week, in April, won't kill Barber. Moving it from April to Sept., for example, would be bad.

[aaron5572]

I am NOT in favor of the "off-week" thing. I would like to see IndyCars on track for twenty-two consecutive weeks, counting opening weekend and qualifying at Indy, plus twenty races. Maybe an off week for Easter, depending on when that is... but I do NOT want to see lulls and inconsistency in the schedule. I think that hurts the Series.

International races really do require off weeks for going through customs and such

[Scuff]

One week, in April, won't kill Barber. Moving it from April to Sept., for example, would be bad.

First we move one week to get Phoenix in. Ahhh.........not too bad. Then Ft. Lauderdale coughs up a sanctioning fee, promises millions to Indycar and local business. But it's gotta be in April. Hey...........Barber will suck it up. They'll be allright. Move it to early May, etc. etc. I don't even care for Barber. Rather have another oval. Consistency is more important than most think. If Barber is successful, leave it where it is and build on it.

[Fro]

I heard this weekend St Pete will be moved up a week or two and Phoenix will be two weeks after. If I understand correctly, St Pete would be Mar 10 and Phoenix on the 31st. Not sure where that leaves Barber since that was its weekend.

Time will tell

http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/06-...s-through-2017

The 2013 race weekend is March 22-24, and tickets on sale in November. For
more information, visit www.gpstpete.com.

St. Pete is going to be on March 24th in 2013.

[jackinbox]

International races really do require off weeks for going through customs and such

Having an F1 avatar, I'm surprised you would post this. F1 does back-to-back international races several times per year.

[802RacingTech]

I am NOT in favor of the "off-week" thing. I would like to see IndyCars on track for twenty-two consecutive weeks, counting opening weekend and qualifying at Indy, plus twenty races. Maybe an off week for Easter, depending on when that is... but I do NOT want to see lulls and inconsistency in the schedule. I think that hurts the Series.

Touche

[mitchbr]

http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/06-...s-through-2017



St. Pete is going to be on March 24th in 2013.

Another wrinkle...then my guess would be St Pete 24th, Barber 31st, Phoenix Apr 7th, and LB 14th, just speculating

[TimmyZ1]

I wanted to correct something said earlier. When discussing the schedule I was against piling up dates at a huge pace. I said Penske has over a 100 people. I was wrong he has 50 according to this article. Running 3 cars. You can get stretched really thin really quick running 6-7 weeks in a row much less 22 like some posters want.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rac...?sct=rc_t11_a0

[Grizzlor]

I agree. Unfortunately many oval tracks (MIS, Kentucky) were moved around the sked. or off it to make way for street courses, without blinking an eye. The reverse is next to impossible though, due to all the setup issues and contracts. IMO, Edmonton is a killer. Move it to August, and get MIS and Pocono in there.

[numetalbizkit]

I've created a little spreadsheet with potential dates and races...

3/24 - St. Pete (Confirmed/Contract through 2017)
3/31 - Barber - (Track confirmed, but no date, contract through 2013 w/ option for future)
4/14 - Phoenix (Could be 4/28 as well) [expected to be confirmed in the coming month]
4/21 - Long Beach (Confirmed/Contract through 2015)
5/5 - Sao Paulo (Contract through 2019, no date yet)
5/26 - Indy 500 (Confirmed)
6/2 - Belle Isle
6/9 -Texas
6/15 - Milwaukee (Confirmed)
6/23 - Iowa
7/7 - Toronto (Contract, no date set)
7/21 - Edmonton (Contract through 2013, no date set)
8/4 - Mid-Ohio
8/18 - Road America (ALMS Doubleheader)
8/25 - Cleveland?
9/1 - Baltimore (Contract through 2017, no date set)
9/8 - Richmond?
9/22 - Ft. Lauderdale
10/6 - Houston (Confirmed/Contract through 2017)
10/13 - California? Las Vegas?

20 races, 7 Ovals, 10 Streets, 3 Roadies

IICS is in negotiations with the following ISC tracks as additions: Phoenix, Richmond, Michigan, Chicagoland, and Watkins Glen. Cleveland, Ft. Lauderdale, and Road America are other non-ISC tracks in negotiations...

[Glenn]

i've created a little spreadsheet with potential dates and races...

3/24 - st. Pete (confirmed/contract through 2017)
3/31 - barber - (track confirmed, but no date, contract through 2013 w/ option for future)
4/14 - phoenix (could be 4/28 as well) [expected to be confirmed in the coming month]
4/21 - long beach (confirmed/contract through 2015)
5/5 - sao paulo (contract through 2019, no date yet)
5/26 - indy 500 (confirmed)
6/2 - belle isle
6/9 -texas
6/15 - milwaukee (confirmed)
6/23 - iowa
7/7 - toronto (contract, no date set)
7/21 - edmonton (contract through 2013, no date set)
8/4 - mid-ohio
8/18 - road america (alms doubleheader)
8/25 - cleveland?
9/1 - baltimore (contract through 2017, no date set)
9/8 - richmond?
9/22 - ft. Lauderdale
10/6 - houston (confirmed/contract through 2017)
10/13 - california? Las vegas?

20 races, 7 ovals, 10 streets, 3 roadies

iics is in negotiations with the following ics tracks as additions: Phoenix, richmond, michigan, chicagoland, and watkins glen. Cleveland, ft. Lauderdale, and road america are other non-isc tracks in negotiations...

This would be GREAT!!!!!

[TDIndy500]

Is Iowa coming back???? This the last year of their contract. They have no sponsor lined up and I am sure they will want a discount sanction fee....

This information is coming from a track official at Iowa last weekend.

TD