The Official Will Power's "Wankers" List

[Big Daddy]

Just out of curiosity, what event would you suggest would have been Will's "fault". I'm sure there are plenty but Will's been pretty much a stand-up guy in my opinion. Look at the mistakes made by his team/crew last year that ultimately cost him the championship. He never threw them under the bus, specifically stating at one point "win as a team lose as a team". I think Scott and Dario are pretty much stand-up guys too but the single thing that Will said about Dario that got my attention was about how he stood on the podium in Milwaukee and blasted other people about their driving...blah, blah, blah. He has a point there. If Dario is going to rant about other people's driving in that forum, he is fair game when he's on the other end.

Dario has also won 3 championships and about to win 4, he's established more of a right to complain about other drivers than Will Power has. Power has closed the door-chopped people all year. Dixon at Barber, Quals at LB, Now at Toronto and he's always played innocent like he doesnt know why people are mad, people have gotten fed up with his antics on track and they gave him what he deserved and dumped him. He left the door open to Franchitti, he saw an opportunity and pounced on it, and then Power decided to shut the door and got dumped which is what happens when you do that, so dont get mad when it happens because thats what you get. He was doing the same thing to Tags and got dumped, maybe after cooling off and looking at the tape he will get the message that people arent going to put up with that. Title contender or not. I just get the sense with him that he is always the victim and never the suspect. We have enough drivers like that, we dont need any more.

[4Wide]

Much like I've never seen a single report of Dario being "dirty", I've never seen a single report of Will "chopping" anyone. Never heard a single driver complain about the way Power drives. Sorry...I think you're grasping a bit here. There are basically only 2 drivers that are generally close enough to Will to even know so that would make any incident pretty scarce.

PS...not trying to devalue your opinion, just seems you're observations don't have much merit throughout the paddock.

[shakespeare]

Dario has also won 3 championships and about to win 4, he's established more of a right to complain about other drivers than Will Power has.

Having x number of titles cuts no ice in a discussion about who has a right to complain. It's an ad hominem attack that is complete and utter bs.

Your usual load.

[spanny]

Honey badger don't give a **** about wankers.

Eww whats that in his mouth?

[Tree0404]

Did you not watch Iowa? Throw Kimball and the #12 pit crew on there.

Although Will may certainly believe Kimball is said "wanker", in that situation, his own crew chief was the real wanker. That was not Kimball's fault.

As far as today goes, Dario was kind of a wanker, but that contact was still more racing than anything.

Tags was full on wanker. At least in today's race.

[jkg]

Will should apologize. Everyone knows that Dario is a gentleman racer who is always getting sharked out there.

[bblocker68]

Seems to me he is one himself, a serial blocker and poor sport, in my view. he's tossed the baby out with the bath water.

How can you be a blocker when you're faster than everyone on track? Sounds more like Kiwi/Aussie haterade.

[LotusClark92]

He has now dubbed himself - "Willie Wanker"

[Big Daddy]

Much like I've never seen a single report of Dario being "dirty", I've never seen a single report of Will "chopping" anyone. Never heard a single driver complain about the way Power drives. Sorry...I think you're grasping a bit here. There are basically only 2 drivers that are generally close enough to Will to even know so that would make any incident pretty scarce.

PS...not trying to devalue your opinion, just seems you're observations don't have much merit throughout the paddock.

You dont need to see a report, just watch a race and be able to describe what you are seeing or lack-there-of. Well you've heard 3 so far this year, Dixon-Franchitti-Tagliani. Power is the only one ive heard call Dario a dirty driver. The vote is 3-1.

[Big Daddy]

Having x number of titles cuts no ice in a discussion about who has a right to complain. It's an ad hominem attack that is complete and utter bs.

Your usual load.

Having no titles in the best ride cuts no ice about a driver being better than one with multiple titles.

[NotSoBad]

Again in a similar argument in another thread, how the hell is that a comparison? Yeah franchitti has all of those titles but how can you compare it to power when Power wasn't in the freaking series then. A better comparison would be when they've been on track at the same time. Just doesn't work for this argument I think

[Big Daddy]

Again in a similar argument in another thread, how the hell is that a comparison? Yeah franchitti has all of those titles but how can you compare it to power when Power wasn't in the freaking series then. A better comparison would be when they've been on track at the same time. Just doesn't work for this argument I think

So where was Power last year?

[NotSoBad]

In the Series... finishing nicely ahead of Scott Dixon in the points... With 5 wins to Dixons 3 wins.

[Supernova]

To your point, although it hasn't gotten much attention given the other circumstances during and post race, HCN had another poor day at the office with his faux pas hurting not only himself but also his teammate (again). He keeps talking about turning it around but the season's half over already... When's the turnaround going to begin?

What could he do? Flintstone his car with his legs? Very difficult to race well when you keep going into the pits and wind up 4 laps down. Oh, forgot, Roger fired 5 of 6 crewmen.

[Big Daddy]

In the Series... finishing nicely ahead of Scott Dixon in the points... With 5 wins to Dixons 3 wins.

I guess when you are a two-time champion, 3 wins and 3rd in points is considered a bad year.

[4Wide]

I don't need to see a "report" for Dario or Will. Plain and simple they are neither one known in the paddock (or anywhere else) to be dirty or for blocking. You're really starting to show your hand as having an agenda. I heard Dixon whine about Will getting a jump on him during restarts, hardly dirty. If we learn anything from that it is only reinforcement that Dixon whines with the best of them. Beyond that, Dario has never complained about Will's driving. Tag spouting off today was nothing more than someone that screwed up trying to deflect the obvious. Even if I give you that as the first time someone has even accused Will of that driving style, by your somewhat interesting logic, it's 1-1.

Start a poll here on TF...you're not going to get a lot of votes for Will being dirty or whatever. They fact you're even suggesting it out of left field has taken me by surprise. If you called out Helio I'd understand but not guys like Will or Dario. They are as clean as it comes.

[Big Daddy]

I don't need to see a "report" for Dario or Will. Plain and simple they are neither one known in the paddock (or anywhere else) to be dirty or for blocking. You're really starting to show your hand as having an agenda. I heard Dixon whine about Will getting a jump on him during restarts, hardly dirty. If we learn anything from that it is only reinforcement that Dixon whines with the best of them. Beyond that, Dario has never complained about Will's driving. Tag spouting off today was nothing more than someone that screwed up trying to deflect the obvious. Even if I give you that as the first time someone has even accused Will of that driving style, by your somewhat interesting logic, it's 1-1.

Start a poll here on TF...you're not going to get a lot of votes for Will being dirty or whatever. They fact you're even suggesting it out of left field has taken me by surprise. If you called out Helio I'd understand but not guys like Will or Dario. They are as clean as it comes.

According to Tags Power was closing the door on him several times before the incident, Tags was quicker and was being held up and if you are going to keep shutting the door like that, dont get mad when you get wrecked because thats whats gonna happen.

You dont know what happened before that, I dont know, all we know is what Tags said. We just see the wreck and not what leads up to it. I dont think Power is a dirty driver but he definitely does things on track that dont please some of his competitors. Theres a difference and if you continue to race people how they dont want to be raced, its gonna bite you in the a$$ eventually and it did for Power. And Will always plays innocent like he doesnt know what people are talking about, when they finally get tired of the antics and he gets taken out, now he's having a fit about it. See the recurring theme? Power is always the victim and never the suspect. Not saying its True or Untrue but thats what it looks like and comes across as. And the Not-So-Innocent Will Power came out today, as i said it would, and it was actually pretty fun to see and i hope we see more of it.

[kiwidwc]

How can you be a blocker when you're faster than everyone on track? Sounds more like Kiwi/Aussie haterade.

No, watch him, he cuts people off, just more clever about it as opposed to Helio who is brutal about it. all the drivers do it from time to time, but more so when they are desperate and Power was desperate today. Dixon did it as well a couple of times. Power could have stayed out on the corner when Dario poked his nose in where he shouldn't have and he knew Dario was there but he still cut the corner. The thing is, he had the right to do that but why do it when for the sake of 12 inches he would have still been on the track in front of Dario. Then he has the temerity to moan and whine like a cry baby. Bad hair day, he should just suck it up.

[aaron5572]

technically Helio has been a wanker since Long beach when he took Power out on the last restart

[Big Daddy]

And you got Power calling Fans wankers on twitter and he's saying he raced Dario completely clean and he straight took him out and that put him in position so Tags could take him out. Are you all seeing the recurring theme? Im the victim, its not my fault its everyone else's fault and your a wanker that doesnt know anything about racing if you think otherwise. Do we have another driver that can do wrong and its always someone else's fault?

Will: when you race people like you raced them today, you are going to get dumped. So dont get mad when it happens because that is what you are going to get. You raced Dario and Tags the same way shuttin the door on them and two different drivers and you got dumped in both occasions, the common denominator in all of this is YOU.

Atleast have the class to not argue with fans.

Is everyone still buying Will's innocent ACT on the camera from the previous races.

[numetalbizkit]

technically Helio has been a wanker since Long beach when he took Power out on the last restart

Beat me to it...But yes, since Long Beach, Helio has been a total nincompoop.

[GoFastNow]

just an FYI, watch all street road course races from this season again.

WP drives like no one else is anywhere near him. Even when there are people near him, causing many to brake steer to avoid. HE is the wanker.

[solvera]

I gotta put this stuff on a T-shirt. trying to think of something creative.

How about:
Will Power Fan Club No Wankers Allowed!

[sean26]

charlie kimball is the joe tanto of indycar, he has to block for his teammates or he will get fired

[sightlines]

Beat me to it...But yes, since Long Beach, Helio has been a total nincompoop.

technically Helio has been a wanker since Long beach when he took Power out on the last restart

Technically, He's been a wanker since he did DWTS

[blackflagged]

Technically, He's been a wanker since he did DWTS

Or since he had been running from the IRS.

[Oben]

Perhaps if Will puts hiself in others shoes, he would see the way he is racing people on track and that he really cant get mad for getting dumped because he deserves to get dumped. You all can say what you want about Dario/Dixon but i hear them man up and admit to their faults and mistakes alot, but i sure dont see Power doing this. Is he one of those that nothing is ever his fault? Sometimes you need to look in the mirror first.

Straight up.

[trow]

We need an end of the year award show for this sort of thing. Maybe all them the "Wankees."

Thumbs up!

The Wankees!

[kiwidwc]

And you got Power calling Fans wankers on twitter and he's saying he raced Dario completely clean and he straight took him out and that put him in position so Tags could take him out. Are you all seeing the recurring theme? Im the victim, its not my fault its everyone else's fault and your a wanker that doesnt know anything about racing if you think otherwise. Do we have another driver that can do wrong and its always someone else's fault?

Will: when you race people like you raced them today, you are going to get dumped. So dont get mad when it happens because that is what you are going to get. You raced Dario and Tags the same way shuttin the door on them and two different drivers and you got dumped in both occasions, the common denominator in all of this is YOU.

Atleast have the class to not argue with fans.

Is everyone still buying Will's innocent ACT on the camera from the previous races.

No, not me. I can tell you one thing that is irrevocably true - if the drivers were the other way round Power would be saying after the post race that he doesn't know what the other driver is complaining about. I've never known Power to own up or fess up to making a mistake. He's getting too big headed, in my view. This was a racing incident where he left the door open, Franchitti poked his nose in where he shouldn't have, tried to back out, couldn't go anywhere because he had a wall to one side and Power, for the sake of 12 inches closed the door. Here's the thing, he knew Franchitti was there. If he had stayed wide he would have still been in front of him because he knew Franchitti was backing off. Power misjudged and paid the penalty although Franchitti should not have been there.

But since when has cold hard logic played a part in reasonable discussions on this board, rarely from what I can see.

[Neshaminy]

Looking at the move that took out Kanaan, would that make Briscoe's left turn on the wheel Will's premature Wanker move of the race?