"Try some of these before or after your statements if you are not presenting them as facts. Things like - "In my opinion", or "I think that", JHMO, IMHO, IMO, JMO... Your opinions are not (necessarily) fact. That would clear things up some." - Seadog 03/25/2010 11:40am So the above is JMO.
"The series may be hesitant to say it, but the day is here for everybody that loves IndyCar racing to link arms and help each other out. Anybody who doesn’t want to do that needs to find something else to do with their time.”
-- Eddie Gossage, President, Texas Motor Speedway, ICONIC Advisory Committee & TrackForum member
A lot of people have admitted to shedding tears. I've seen them on the faces of fellow drivers and business associates, not to mention family and friends. But you say that's less than honorable??Originally Posted by you
I don't know, what, you think they're faking the tears? You again seem to be contradicting yourself, as well as defying simple compassion.
Every time you use that "just sit there" phrase, it always conveys to me your disdain - you say "you mean you're just gonna sit there and tell me blah blah blah" when you are implying you don't believe someone.
Then you deny it. Confusing, at the least.
By the way, Webster's reference for "Combat" doesn't come close to alluding to sport. Your reading skills or your ability to comprehend the written word is seriously deficient.
Webster defines combat as this: : 1. a fight or contest between individuals or groups
Was Monday nights game between Baltimore and Jacksonville not a contest between individuals or groups?
But you are right, I'm the one with the inability to comprehend the written word.
Hurley, your only comment after four pages in this thread were you asking me if I thought war and sport were the same. But its you that accuses me of being an antagonistic jerk. Were you genuinely asking for clarity? I highly doubt it. So what does that make you?
Don't equate desire to win a contest with the courage and valor of someone like the medal of honor recipient, Robert James Miller as well Sgt First Class Paul R. Smith who died while keeping the enemy at bay allowing for the wounded to be carried out. They don't play games and that is not sport. That is courage and valor. You can find heart in sports but, again, don't equate that with courage because you heard a coach use it and you thought it sounded neat.
Last edited by JohnMc; 10-26-2011 at 04:51 PM.
I should just learn to use emoticons more often, I could probably avoid a bunch of grief!
If I might interject...
I really admired--I still do, in fact--Dr George Sheehan. His books on sports philosophy, particularly Running and Being, emphasized the concept of Sport as Play (caps intended.) I found the thought very illuminating and still do all these years later.
Maybe, that's why we say that a football (or baseball, or basketball, etc.) game is played. It might be visually, metaphorically perhaps, compared to combat...but at its core, it's still play.
So, if sport is play, maybe that's why we take such joy at it, either watching it done or actually doing it ourselves. It is one moment we transcend the ordinary life and reach beyond.
It's the same feeling I used to get at about 11 miles during a half-marathon. Or at 22 miles during the one marathon I managed to finish.
The same feeling I would get when I would twist the grip just a little more wide open, with more horsepower than sense, jam my foot to the throttlestop, hoping I would make it through the next turn without tossing myself into the haybales again.
The same feeling I got years ago when I would dig into a new cave passage no one had ever seen before and produce a map of it. And the same feeling I got the other day when my son and reached the crest of the Angel Falls overlook at Big South Fork. Exhaustion, and elation, and...something else. Something beyond.
And sometimes, when you reach beyond...you don't come back.
I will miss Dan Wheldon. I will miss his smile, his wry sense of humor, the thrill of watching him charge through a pack. I cried for days afterward, as I'm sure a lot of people here did. But it won't keep me from watching racing, or being involved to whatever extent I am in the future. It's one of the ways I play, after all.
Don't stop playing.
I hope I communicated something here besides my own inate lunacy. Read Sheehan, maybe it'll make sense.