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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Colts just fired their defensive coordinator.
    Well... coordination had been a little spotty.
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    Hopefully this is just the start of the house cleaning for the Colts organization. Although, I'm a bit worried that by firing Coyer during the season still means Caldwell could be the HC next year.

    Next up, the STs coach, in the batter's box Jim Caldwell and in the dug out Chris Polian.
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    Coming in off tweeter from the pres conference.....

    Dan Olovsky will start Sunday @ NE!! My god, talk about a great place to start him, why not @ home against Carolina.

    Firing Coyer was an organizational decision, i.e., Mr. Polian made the decision.

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    Gotta say, I'm surprised they're making changes in midstream. I don't think they've done that since 1991. Of course, when they did it in 1986, they turned an 0-13 record into a 3-0 finish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyouloveit? View Post
    Dan Olovsky will start Sunday @ NE!! My god, talk about a great place to start him...
    Against the #32 passing defense in yardage (last place by a large margin)? Sounds smart to me.

    32.) New England -- 307.5
    31.) Green Bay -- 287.8
    30.) Chicago -- 270.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyouloveit? View Post

    Dan Olovsky will start Sunday @ NE!! .

    Good strategy. even if he plays well, the Colts won't win, and after the Colts lose to NE/Balt, they go back to Painter for the winnable games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    Against the #32 passing defense in yardage (last place by a large margin)? Sounds smart to me.

    32.) New England -- 307.5
    31.) Green Bay -- 287.8
    30.) Chicago -- 270.5
    Ok, fine, but I'm sure the Colts will at the very least have to score 3 TDs to win the game, think that will happen? Colts haven't scored 3 TDs since week five against KC in the first half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyouloveit? View Post
    Ok, fine, but I'm sure the Colts will at the very least have to score 3 TDs to win the game, think that will happen? Colts haven't scored 3 TDs since week five against KC in the first half.
    Although I'm sure the Colts are trying to win games, I don't think they're under the illusion that switching QBs will be what puts them over the top. They're paying the guy -- there's no good reason not to see what he can do, unless they know already that Painter will be on the team next year and Orlovsky won't. Only in that case would it be a dumb move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyouloveit? View Post
    Next up, the STs coach, in the batter's box Jim Caldwell and in the dug out Chris Polian.
    Very slim chance that anything happens to Chris Polian, imo. That would mean letting Bill go as well and Irsay seems baffled by the suggestion that he should even consider such a thing.

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    Colts picked up a fullback off waivers from Carolina. Maybe he's there to replace Mahaffey ,who looked good until he got his bell rung. I'd like to see the Colts play with a FB more often.

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    From CBS Sports:

    Polians in on decision to dump Coyer

    Jim Caldwell said the firing of defensive coordinator Larry Coyer was an "organizational decision." Caldwell was flanked at the podium during his press conference by vice chairman Bill Polian and vice president/general manager Chris Polian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    Against the #32 passing defense in yardage (last place by a large margin)? Sounds smart to me.

    32.) New England -- 307.5
    31.) Green Bay -- 287.8
    30.) Chicago -- 270.5
    Won't make a bit of difference...I watched VY throw for 400 yards against the Pats last Sunday and the Eagles got whipped 38-20. The same, or worse, is waiting for the Colts since their D won't fare any better than the Eagles at stopping Brady et al...which is really the way to beat NE this year.

    I mentioned earlier in the thread that I wasn't sold on Luck. Watched some of the Stanford-ND game last weekend, and still can't get on the bandwagon. I know he threw for four scores, but he misses easy throws, it may have been the weakest 4 TD effort I've seen in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gomer Simpson View Post
    Coyer is gone? Interesting. I would not think that bodes well for Caldwell, since that was his one big hand-picked change from the Dungy regime.

    That and the 0-11 record.

    Caldwell called it an 'organizational decision'. I suspect that a similar 'organizational decision' with Caldwell will be made in no later than 5-6 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akh_v2.0 View Post
    Won't make a bit of difference...I watched VY throw for 400 yards against the Pats last Sunday and the Eagles got whipped 38-20. The same, or worse, is waiting for the Colts since their D won't fare any better than the Eagles at stopping Brady et al...which is really the way to beat NE this year.
    Once again, nobody is saying that playing Orlovsky over Painter is going to be the difference between winning and losing. DYL suggested it was a tough place for Orlovsky to get his first start, and I was simply responding that the Pats' have the easiest pass defense (statistically) for any QB to play against.

    That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akh_v2.0 View Post
    I mentioned earlier in the thread that I wasn't sold on Luck. Watched some of the Stanford-ND game last weekend, and still can't get on the bandwagon. I know he threw for four scores, but he misses easy throws, it may have been the weakest 4 TD effort I've seen in a while.
    That just goes to show how two people can see the same things and come out with different opinions! I think Luck looks better this year than Manning ever did at UT, but you certainly aren't the first who isn't sold on Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by don7031 View Post
    Well, that will fix everything.
    Yep... thatllfixit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyouloveit? View Post
    Coming in off tweeter from the pres conference.....

    Dan Olovsky will start Sunday @ NE!! My god, talk about a great place to start him, why not @ home against Carolina.

    Firing Coyer was an organizational decision, i.e., Mr. Polian made the decision.
    Orlovsky puts the "O" in 0 & 16!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    Orlovsky puts the "O" in 0 & 16!!!!!
    To be fair, he started only seven of those 16 games.

    The other starters for the Lions that season were guys who experienced a fair amount of success at times in the NFL: Daunte Culpepper (0-5) and John Kitna (0-4). Orlovsky actually had the best QB rating of the three (FWIW). Statistically, the passing offense wasn't the major problem for the team that year (24th in yards and 19th in TDs). It was their rushing offense (30/25) and their defense (32nd in everything) that killed them that year.

    Perhaps Orlovsky's best start: 23-34, 233 yards, 1 TD, and 0 INTs -- against the 9-4 Colts on 12/14/08. The Lions lost by eight points or less in his first four starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    What I meant about learning more about Manning this week is that he is due for an examination on 11/30.
    Chris Mortensen of ESPN now says that we won't have results until next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post
    To be fair, he started only seven of those 16 games.

    The other starters for the Lions that season were guys who experienced a fair amount of success at times in the NFL: Daunte Culpepper (0-5) and John Kitna (0-4). Orlovsky actually had the best QB rating of the three (FWIW). Statistically, the passing offense wasn't the major problem for the team that year (24th in yards and 19th in TDs). It was their rushing offense (30/25) and their defense (32nd in everything) that killed them that year.

    Perhaps Orlovsky's best start: 23-34, 233 yards, 1 TD, and 0 INTs -- against the 9-4 Colts on 12/14/08. The Lions lost by eight points or less in his first four starts.
    That's all well & good... but my comment was more or less that I believe out of The Big O & #CP7, The Big O gives the current Colts the best shot at losing out.

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    Appears encouraging news about #18 today. Fusion has done its job now time to ramp up rehab.

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    Maybe he'll play again, and maybe he won't, but all the armchair doctors who pronounced him done are probably pretty upset right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doyouloveit? View Post
    Appears encouraging news about #18 today. Fusion has done its job now time to ramp up rehab.
    That is absolutely outstanding news for Payton Manning as a human being.

    However, the tricker part with respect to him playing again will be the nerve issue.

    SI.com injury writer Will Carroll was less enthusiastic. He tweeted, "New info on Manning tells us NOTHING about his ability to play. NOTHING. NO NEW INFO. I can't make it more clear than that."
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    That is absolutely outstanding news for Payton Manning as a human being.

    However, the tricker part with respect to him playing again will be the nerve issue.

    SI.com injury writer Will Carroll was less enthusiastic. He tweeted, "New info on Manning tells us NOTHING about his ability to play. NOTHING. NO NEW INFO. I can't make it more clear than that."
    Saw the same tweet....dude thrives off drama and hyping up injuries. Good news IMO and I'm taking it is a step in the right direction to getting back on the field.

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    If Peyton can come back then there will be more leverage with the draft pick if no desperate need for Andrew Luck. Imagine if they can keep Manning around for another few years and find someone as desperate as San Diego was in ending up with Ryan Leaf by trading down. To quote Wikipedia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Noonan View Post
    SI.com injury writer Will Carroll was less enthusiastic. He tweeted, "New info on Manning tells us NOTHING about his ability to play. NOTHING. NO NEW INFO. I can't make it more clear than that."


    It's not like people are saying Manning is going to play against the Patriots. Either the fusion happened, or it didn't. It did, and that is news. One small step, but news none the less.

    I can't make it more clear than that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren Butler View Post


    It's not like people are saying Manning is going to play against the Patriots. Either the fusion happened, or it didn't. It did, and that is news. One small step, but news none the less.

    I can't make it more clear than that...
    I think Peyton will live a normal, healthy life so it is great news. The fusion was done to relieve pain.

    But the nerve regeneration issue is much more serious and it will be a minor miracle if anyone knows for certain that Peyton can play again before that bonus is due.

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    "It is not unusual for patients to undergo a lengthy, complex, peripheral nerve reconstruction procedure, only to see no evidence of recovery for a year or more. This can be immensely frustrating for the patient. Unfortunately, there is nothing in medical science currently that can make these axons grow any faster."

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    I'm not sure how that's a response to me. I fully understand that there's still a long road ahead, and that playing again might not be in the cards. But that's a far cry from saying this update contains "no new info."

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