Miss the Delta Wing yet?

[FTHurley]

It's all well and good that Bolby said that; it's another thing altogether to build a prototype, put it on a track, and prove it. I'm glad to see they're doing it for LeMans. It should have been done as part of the sales pitch. The biggest mistake they made was not having a rolling, running unit ready to demonstrate. Instead, they spent their resources on Apple-level secrecy on the thing, people got their hopes up, and when they saw it many were not only disappointed but horrified.

The simple fact is one can simulate anything he wants on a computer, either "real-world" or pure fantasy. It shows the potential for what's possible. It does not prove the possibility in and of itself.

In retrospect, you're right - they would have been better off had they allowed some leaks, but debuted at Chicago with a test mule. Even if it had miles and miles of work still to be done, it would have accomplished two things: right away people would have seen it lay down a respectable real-world lap, and the folks who could get over the looks would have had a chance to do so gradually rather than flipping directly the heck out when the drape came off.

It wouldn't have even had to be particularly fast. If they could have put a Mazda sports car engine in it (for example) and turned some laps at Indy, Homestead, and Mid-Ohio without looking silly, that would have eased a lot of fears among decision makers (based on Purnell's comments).

Alas, that was probably prohibitive given what it takes to build a car. As it was, they were the only proposal that even built a damn model. Man, if they had even cut out the wheel wells to nip the "but it can't turn!" calls, it would have been better. And maybe something other than battleship grey paint, huh?

It's like they hated marketing so much, they designed the project to fail.

[interplanet]

In retrospect, you're right - they would have been better off had they allowed some leaks, but debuted at Chicago with a test mule. Even if it had miles and miles of work still to be done, it would have accomplished two things: right away people would have seen it lay down a respectable real-world lap, and the folks who could get over the looks would have had a chance to do so gradually rather than flipping directly the heck out when the drape came off.

It wouldn't have even had to be particularly fast. If they could have put a Mazda sports car engine in it (for example) and turned some laps at Indy, Homestead, and Mid-Ohio without looking silly, that would have eased a lot of fears among decision makers (based on Purnell's comments).

Alas, that was probably prohibitive given what it takes to build a car. As it was, they were the only proposal that even built a damn model. Man, if they had even cut out the wheel wells to nip the "but it can't turn!" calls, it would have been better. And maybe something other than battleship grey paint, huh?

It's like they hated marketing so much, they designed the project to fail.

I don't think that they designed it to fail, I think they just did not have the time to develop the idea better. I am going out on a limb here and going to assume that they seen the Indy situation as a means to produce a car that was a long going idea but never had the means to get the right people together to bring the idea to life. They are better off being able to take the time to develop the machine properly now, but I still think having a car running at full race spec by June is scary.

Now they have the time and the means to add unique parts and packages specifically tailored for the car without a committee working against them or early timetables (besides le mans) to distract them and rush production. just look at the brakes for one, a carbon disk produced from a single matrix of carbon, that has to be interesting to manufacture.

[Bryan_Weber]

P.S. Man, I could go for some crueller french toast from Lou's right now!

Dartmouth Alum?

[debris on the track]

In retrospect, you're right - they would have been better off had they allowed some leaks, but debuted at Chicago with a test mule. Even if it had miles and miles of work still to be done, it would have accomplished two things: right away people would have seen it lay down a respectable real-world lap, and the folks who could get over the looks would have had a chance to do so gradually rather than flipping directly the heck out when the drape came off.

It wouldn't have even had to be particularly fast. If they could have put a Mazda sports car engine in it (for example) and turned some laps at Indy, Homestead, and Mid-Ohio without looking silly, that would have eased a lot of fears among decision makers (based on Purnell's comments).

Alas, that was probably prohibitive given what it takes to build a car. As it was, they were the only proposal that even built a damn model. Man, if they had even cut out the wheel wells to nip the "but it can't turn!" calls, it would have been better. And maybe something other than battleship grey paint, huh?

It's like they hated marketing so much, they designed the project to fail.

I think the Series got fat, lazy and stupid.

[Diss Fan]

No - I dont miss it.

[Baigu]

Nissan will be the engine for the Deltawing

On board video!!

http://www.highcroftracing.com/news/...car-video.html

[Dexter]

[Dexter]

Nissan will be the engine for the Deltawing

On board video!!

http://www.highcroftracing.com/news/...car-video.html

Nobody is going to complain about how slow it goes around corners now!

1.6 Turbo sounds pretty good. How great would that have been to go up against everything else at the Indy 500. That alone would have given the event massive global relevance.

[ACCP]

The actual on-track car isn't nearly as graceful. Looks like the cockpit and sidepod are way further forward than the concept:

[Baigu]

Nobody is going to complain about how slow it goes around corners now!

1.6 Turbo sounds pretty good. How great would that have been to go up against everything else at the Indy 500. That alone would have given the event massive global relevance.

Agree! Would love to see it at Indy, but glad I'll still be able to see it in the ALMS. I predict that if all goes well, we might see this car ( or cars similar to it) become the norm in motorsport in the next 20 yrs. Efficient racing!!

[joe]

The actual on-track car isn't nearly as graceful. Looks like the cockpit and sidepod are way further forward than the concept:

And thank you Lord for the DW12....

[ACCP]

Side view...

[AFColt]

Man, did we dodge a bullet. An elongated, phallic bullet.

[BSJracing]

why is this on Indy car page?

[Andretti91]

Swift is in the racecar biz. If someone pays them to make an aerokit they will.

Actually someone is.

[Baigu]

Probably creates less drag with the "new" sidepods?

[Baigu]

why is this on Indy car page?

Cause it was a Indycar concept car.

[Dexter]

Nissan launching a NISMO 1.6 Juke with the same engine denomination as the DW engine, it will also have torque vectoring like the DW. That is very smart marketing and there is nothing comparable in IndyCar. At the end of the day, that is the key to why Nissan got involved in this and the reason they are going to Le Mans, they can talk and shout about direct technology transfer.

[Muskie4041]

I love this car, but the concept is way better looking than the car they're testing. I wonder if that's just further development, or if it's the results of recycling the Aston Martin tub and mounting Delta Wing parts to it?

[BSJracing]

Man, did we dodge a bullet. An elongated, phallic bullet.

yup....

[BSJracing]

Cause it was a Indycar concept car.

Yeah, and it (mercifully) didn't make the cut, it's now a sports car, talk about it in the sports car forum

[nzirl]

I love this car, but the concept is way better looking than the car they're testing. I wonder if that's just further development, or if it's the results of recycling the Aston Martin tub and mounting Delta Wing parts to it?

Thats what it looks like to me.

[goldie19]

Isn't there a sports car forum for delta wing talk? I know if someone posted a "miss Danica yet" or " miss Sam yet" the thread would be shackled and run off to the NASCAR page

[Baigu]

Yeah, and it (mercifully) didn't make the cut, it's now a sports car, talk about it in the sports car forum

Just don't click on the thread if you won't want to read it.

Weird that for some sportscar fans, it's a Indycar, and some Indycar fans, it's a sportscar.

[BSJracing]

Just don't click on the thread if you won't want to read it.

Weird that for some sportscar fans, it's a Indycar, and some Indycar fans, it's a sportscar.

Especially when it's really a tri-cycle with a split front.....
It doesn't belong on Indycar's forum period

[Muskie4041]

I'd love to see them run it on the Sebring short course just so we could see how the 2 cars compare.

[John R]

Actually someone is.

Is that confirmed andretti91 or just speculation? Is Chevy or some other manufacturer contracting swift to design their aero kit? Or is Swift doing their own kit? Remember that the chassis will have the designation of the aero kit... so if swift did design their own, it would technically be a Swift/Chevy entry for example... but if they were contracted/badged by a manufacturer like chevy then the car would be a Chevy/Chevy

[goldie19]

Side view...

Kim and Chloe Kardashian replaced with....Kirstie Alley and that chick from Wilson Phillips? No thanks

[Muskie4041]

Thats what it looks like to me.

I agree. It also looks like they tried to make it look more like a prototype, or the ACO made them conform to some parts of the rule book.

[ttturner68]

Hideous....let it stay in sports car.

John R, With DW12 designation will next years cars be labeled as Chevy DW12/ Chevy or Swift DW12 / Chevy like we see Dallara DW12 / Chevy is listed in all the press releases?