Who Will Take Paul Tracy’s $2M?

**honesty** · 01-06-2012 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by goldie19

Ya know, I'm not offended by this map, even though it seems to make funof Americans....I don't care that it refers to euros as pussies....I don't mind that others think its funny. But when replys are deleted, you just wonder what Big Brother is so frightened of. Certain people get slapped around constantly here.....others don't. Go figure, it's lost on me

Which is why my sig is what it is.

**TKG26** · 01-06-2012 07:12 AM

I think the Africa/aids comment was censor worthy.

**numetalbizkit** · 01-06-2012 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by TKG26

I think the Africa/aids comment was censor worthy.

Seriously? I don't honestly believe that's all Africa has. I was merely speaking in terms of it was on that map. Purely in jest.

**Grizzlor** · 01-06-2012 08:55 AM

FWIW, this morning Cavin wrote that PT was still talking mainly to Honda teams.

**AFColt** · 01-06-2012 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Grizzlor

FWIW, this morning Cavin wrote that PT was still talking mainly to Honda teams.

If we're looking at just Honda teams, it seems like it might be between SSM and Foyt, then. Ganassi's obviously booked, and I think RLLR has Sato signed and Howard close, if not already secured. I think Jakes goes back to Coyne.

**missile** · 01-09-2012 10:21 PM

With Servia going to DRR, there was a little nugger og information in the article talking about Servia talking to Panther abiout a 2nd car, I think Tracy might well end up at Panther.

1) Panther needs a guy that can develop this new car. That could be Tracy. He's definitely got the experience. Plus, he only wants to run another year or so, which means Pather gets immediate rewards from him that they can use for the 4 remaining years of the chassis cycle.
2) Panther hinges their season around winning Indy. Tracy has either done it (according to some) or come very close.

If the National Guard sponsorship money being as good as it is rumored to be, it wouldn't take a lot of money to fund a second car. Tracy has some money not tied to Honda, probably in the $750k-$1M range, so that could be the missing dollar amount to really pay for two cars for Panther this year.

**Somberlain56** · 01-09-2012 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by missile

If the National Guard sponsorship money being as good as it is rumored to be, it wouldn't take a lot of money to fund a second car. Tracy has some money not tied to Honda, probably in the $750k-$1M range, so that could be the missing dollar amount to really pay for two cars for Panther this year.

So, if that was the case, why didn't Panther run two cars with the old Dallara chassis when it would have been exponentially cheaper than this year? It doesn't add up.

**Justhalc** · 01-09-2012 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Somberlain56

So, if that was the case, why didn't Panther run two cars with the old Dallara chassis when it would have been exponentially cheaper than this year? It doesn't add up.

greed? Isn't the National Guard money rumored to be in the $8M range?

**dakinca** · 01-09-2012 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Somberlain56

So, if that was the case, why didn't Panther run two cars with the old Dallara chassis when it would have been exponentially cheaper than this year? It doesn't add up.

Maybe they were saving money for this year. Planing ahead for the costs and hoping to run a second full-time car to help J.R.

**smuff76** · 01-10-2012 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by dakinca

Maybe they were saving money for this year. Planing ahead for the costs and hoping to run a second full-time car to help J.R.

Barnes is well known for planning ahead!

**smuff76** · 01-10-2012 09:16 AM

I think foyt would like to have PT, but without the TEAM money $2m only goes so far. I think some people would even run him through the Canadian rounds on that money, if they could get in the leaders circle, but if you can only guarantee the seat through Canada you not getting in Leaders Circle and it's a pretty big risk to stretch for a small team.

**FlatOut** · 01-10-2012 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Justhalc

greed? Isn't the National Guard money rumored to be in the $8M range?

Uh, no. Its in the 65-80 million range.

**Glenn** · 01-10-2012 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by FlatOut

Uh, no. Its in the 65-80 million range.

Can you verify this? Source? Seems like a lot. Not saying it's not correct, it's just with a number that high, it would be nice to have some verification. Or maybe that number is what the Guard spends on racing, including NASCAR????

EDIT: I did a little googling. I came up with this from an article printed in Feb, 2011:
The largest amount may be the $20 million the National Guard spends to sponsor Dale Earnhardt Jr., NASCAR's most popular driver. The U.S. Army pays $7.4 million to sponsor Ryan Newman. The U.S. Air Force spends $1.6 million to sponsor AJ Allmendinger.

The Army spends an additional $8 million for NASCAR programs on its recruiting efforts. It puts $3.9 million more into the sponsorship of Tony Schumacher's NHRA dragster.

The Air Force's NASCAR spending is less than 2 percent of its marketing budget. The National Guard's outlay last year, $32.7 million, represented 14 percent of its marketing budget.

And here is my source, http://www.thatsracin.com/2011/02/25...er-racing.html

OK, so if I look at the Guards total outlay of $32.7 and substract the $20 million they give Junior, that leaves $12.7 million. But they also sponsor some other motorsport teams, so I would think the $8 million that someone listed before to be pretty close to what they probably give Panther. Where the heck did you come up with such a huge number? I'm thinking maybe you saw a number of what the Armed Forces spends on all of motorsports.

**FlatOut** · 01-10-2012 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Glenn

Can you verify this? Source? Seems like a lot. Not saying it's not correct, it's just with a number that high, it would be nice to have some verification. Or maybe that number is what the Guard spends on racing, including NASCAR????

It was a horribly said joke Glenn, sorry, was doing annual F1 team numbers. Apologies. The 8 million as said seems way out of whack.

**Grizzlor** · 01-10-2012 10:56 AM

No, it's a decent sum that Barnes gets from them. Can't remember the actual rumored total, but it's one of the highest in the series. Barnes retains a fair amount of it.

**Glenn** · 01-10-2012 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by FlatOut

It was a horribly said joke Glenn, sorry, was doing annual F1 team numbers. Apologies. The 8 million as said seems way out of whack.

Sorry, that's the hardest thing about the written word. In fact, it is pretty funny. Can you imagine DRR with that kind of budget not doing better than they did???

**Boomdog15** · 01-10-2012 12:34 PM

@paultracy3paul tracy
alot of people get impatient with the pace of change ...

Hey, is he talking to me because I'm getting impatient. I want the 2012 full-time announcement!

**Hawkes** · 01-10-2012 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Boomdog15

@paultracy3paul tracy
alot of people get impatient with the pace of change ...

Hey, is he talking to me because I'm getting impatient. I want the 2012 full-time announcement!

He's talking to me too...I can't wait to hear the news!

**milliesdad** · 01-10-2012 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by FlatOut

Uh, no. Its in the 65-80 million range.

You have to remember that it's the Government.

The same one that spends $800. on a hammer.

**JStand** · 01-10-2012 11:09 PM

"paul tracy @paultracy3
The emails were flying today , the fax was fired up , and the pen moved across the paper"

Sounds like a positive tweet from PT.

**Justhalc** · 01-10-2012 11:13 PM

awesome

**Robbie!** · 01-10-2012 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by JStand

"paul tracy @paultracy3
The emails were flying today , the fax was fired up , and the pen moved across the paper"

Sounds like a positive tweet from PT.

Randy cant stand the suspense either ....

RBINDYCAR Randy Bernard @ @paultracy3 is this a poetic way of saying you have negotiated a deal with a team

5 minutes ago

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**TKG26** · 01-10-2012 11:25 PM

I JUST PRAY THAT HE IS IN WHOLE HOG! not Part time!

**BizzyV** · 01-10-2012 11:34 PM

I hate this. Lol. Paul, just leak it to somebody and play stupid this is killing me!

**gusto06** · 01-10-2012 11:50 PM

latest tweet...

paul tracy @paultracy3
@RBINDYCAR I hope to be calling in during your meeting ...

**Grizzlor** · 01-11-2012 12:57 AM

No idea what that means!

**thehairpin** · 01-11-2012 01:01 AM

Howdy, Grizzlor! Glad to see I'm not the only TF denizen still up at this hour. I would go to sleep, but it seems like some news might break overnight.