"...American open-wheel racing is based around the most famous oval track in the world -- the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So how in the world does it make sense to center the majority of the IndyCar Series on street courses, road courses and foreign events?..." Terry Blount, ESPN
"Only a fool fights in a burning house."-Kang
"If you listen to fools....The Maaahhhhb Ruuuules....."-Ronnie James Dio
My position is that it's not the lack of Americans that are killing the sport. It's the lack of consistency, exposure and sponsors that are doing it. Not to mention that almost none of these threads actually include any ideas as to how to get Americans into the sport, but rather just features whining and crying about how we need more Americans.
I understand people are frustrated to see good drivers sitting on the side line when ride buyers are in a seat. But this doesn't just affect IndyCar. It affect's F1, NASCAR and other series all around the world.
Maybe there would be more americans in F1 if Windsor and who else was involved didn't f up USF1 Team
"My spotter said spin in turn 2, so i did" - Ken Schrader.
No doubt the most popular MLB players are American born. However, more than one in 20 of the best players (your jersey sales numbers) are foreign born. Of course, the difference in MLB is that there are hundreds of players so even with a significant number of top foreign players around there are more than enough good Americans to market.
What does Eddie know?? He can't even put his neck collar on right side up.
This is in front of me on the grid @ NCMP a few years ago.
- Bobby Rahal
- Michael Andretti
- Jimmy Vasser
- Bryan Herta
- Al Unser Jr
- Richie Hearn
- Scott Pruett
- Robby Gordon
Then add in:
- Alex Zanardi
- Gil de Farren
- Greg Moore
- Christian Fittipaldi
- Adrian Fernadez
- Mark Blundell
- Paul Tracy
- Max Papis
MUCH better drivers (American and foreign), much more talent, and they were driving monsters of cars. There may have been past American drivers in the IRL, but they were not great.
My first Indy 500 was 1973, haven't missed one since 1981. To date I have attended 35 Indy 500's, and probably 100 or so other IndyCar races (CART & IRL).
IndyCar has become glorified club racing. And that started when the boys formed their club.
No American formula car racing series can succeed w/o Indy.
That's my opinion. Show me the error of my ways.
How come nobodies asked about Art Sugai's car?
Probably can't recognize the driver! Rick Mears
"The series may be hesitant to say it, but the day is here for everybody that loves IndyCar racing to link arms and help each other out. Anybody who doesn’t want to do that needs to find something else to do with their time.”
-- Eddie Gossage, President, Texas Motor Speedway, ICONIC Advisory Committee & TrackForum member
Cheever is right, Americans might care to watch if they had a driver they could follow from their home country. It gives you that tie in that helps bring fans. The problem is F1 has always been very elitist and looked down their noses at American drivers. When Americans do get a chance they're usually in bad equipment or asked to be the #2 driver like AJ.
US24 Speedway Non Wing Rookie of the Year - 2012
No one produces good quality drivers like Hiro Matsushita any more
In the context of F1, Cheever is 100% correct. Throw Jimmy Johnson at F1 and see what F1 coverage is like. Honestly try follow ANY international sport in this country through US media and you'll be lucky to grab a 2" square article unless there's some moderately successful American athlete involved.
"Unfortunately, the business types who now permeate the sport don't share this same gut centered devotion. I can only hope that the truly addicted will prevail, and that the original spirit of open wheel competition will somehow manage to survive and prosper into the future."
-Dr. Stephen Olvey
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"Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less" - R.E.Lee
As for the #2 driver bit, take the example of Rick Mears, Bernie wanted him as a #2 to his World Champion, Nelson Piquet. I'd say that was a reasonable request. Mears himself decided not to go to F1 to be a small fish in a big pond (his own words) so he chose not to test himself against the very best. How is that F1's fault?
So what was your point again?
In Formula One, if a given country has ONE driver in the series, they will be behind them and support the series. Formula One does well in countries that don't have home grown participants.
Unfortunately, in parts of the USA, some won't watch unless the whole or most of the field is USA drivers. I imagine that most of these are fans who follow NASCAR and refuse to watch the NBA.
Get your head out of your past!!!
And on a related note...
I'm not sure the series needs a great number of Americans to become more interesting as much as it needs one or two young Americans who can compete with and defeat the best open wheel drivers in the series (who happen to be of other nationalities).