I know she isn't the greatest pusher but her car was amazingly fast when somebody was pushing her. She has the tendency to get broken up with her partner easily. Maybe it's because Mr. Hospenthal gets on the radio and intimidates the other drivers to stop hitting her in the rear.Originally Posted by Esperante
Are we really discussing being or not being a good drafter/pusher? I thought this was a racing forum?
How about something that requires some level of talent.
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Or by itself
Preached safety and warned of death at Daytona this year and then drove like the Grim Reaper for three hours - Robin Miller talking about Tony Stewart
"Steering column is in the air"
- Danica
That car was a rocket. When you can catch a 2 car draft by yourself, you have serious HP.
Drafting actually does require some skill...that's why Dales, Sr. and Cale were so good at it...Are we really discussing being or not being a good drafter/pusher? I thought this was a racing forum?
How about something that requires some level of talent.
If you really want to discuss something that doesn't require much talent, can we talk paddle shifters? Just sayin'...
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She didn't do any good with those either so I wouldn't bring that up in her defense.
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She is all over the place in the draft. She falls back when she is pushing and makes sudden moves to try to hook on to people who look like they have no intention on drafting with her. Early in the race there was another car that Keslowski appeared to be trying to get with and she made a sudden movement in front of BK. As I was watching I had the feeling the others were going to let her do her thing but at the end they would dump her. Just a guess on my part. Also the contention that she is always the victim of other wrecks is questionable. Funny how she is regularly making the move into the wreck while others around her can avoind the wreck.
And this is another case where you think something is a "defense" of Danica when it sure appeared to be a general racing comment about the two series.
You have to be kidding. Your contention would mean all wrecks should be only one car.
There was a car spinning in front of her and up against the wall, so logically, you would try to dip down to the bottom side of the track which is where most of the other cars were trying to get to as well; however, in trying to do so, she got hit from behind and turned. How this is "making the move into the wreck", I'll have no idea. How about getting ran over from behind by JV the race before? Was that her "making the move into the wreck"? Your statement simply makes no sense and holds zero water.
If she doesn't cause the wreck(s), isn't she the victim?
Thanks...it was just a general racing comment...oh well...sigh...
I didn't intend to imply your comment was a defense. Just stating an absolute fact about her lack of success with paddle shifters.
Seems maybe some other members can't get out of their own way sometimes. My comments didn't need to be taken out of context...that is their choice.
Ugh no it doesnt. Plate tracks are not real racing and havent been since they've had restrictor plates forcing them into a pack. Dale Sr and Cale also won races championships and thats why they were great. Stick your foot to the floor and pushing a car's rear end or holding the steering wheel while someone pushes you requires NO SKILL whatsoever.
And for the record, I never liked nor agreed with paddle shifters. They are driver aids and should not be in racing IMO. But give the Nascar boys paddle shifting in some indycars and they would still be lost on those road & street circuits. Those require skill & talent which is why Danica was so bad at them.
I actually would have loved seeing Danica in an Indycar for the ovals this year with those downforce reductions. Boy would that be ugly.
The Brand adds the cookie-cutter at Kansas to her schedule...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/patrick...2--nascar.html
The Brand adds the cookie-cutter at Kansas to her schedule...
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/patrick...2--nascar.html
To all of you defending Danica and picking apart my comment I ask you this, why is she always in a wreck. I guess she has worse luck than most other drivers. Maybe she should drive smart. Your comments are like mine. Speculation and opinion.
I wasn't replying to you...
Sorry, lost in translation...I was just confirming that you were correct and I was just making a general racing comment and that you took the comment the way intended while the other poster (who you were replying to) missed my point...everything's cool...
I wasn't replying to you...
Trust me, it was not worth you repeating
"My favorite time of the day at the Speedway during the month of May was just after dusk, after the track had closed down for day, I used to go out and sit on the pit wall and just listen and think"~ Dick Ralstin
Let's just assume you've covered Danica in her pre-Nascar years... Someone who finished 103 of 115 IndyCar starts seems to be driving fairly smart to me (everyone knows her MO while in IndyCar was to race smart and finish races) and not "making the move into a wreck". Only 3 DNF's since 2008 in IndyCar. I'm sure most would agree that making substantial contact (wreck) with an IndyCar likely means your day is done. Enough with me researching and pulling stats.
How many of her Nationwide wrecks were HER fault and not the result of someone else?
No worries. I just had no idea where you were going with that.
That's a good point.
In the past there used to be some kids that would jump in and be enthusiastic about their driver (as kids usually are), but I think they were driven away.
Also, a 12-years old in 2005 is now a 19-years old, so the demographics may have changed too.
As usual El Maestro has well-though points.
The wrecks are "her fault" because she shouldn't be driving a racecar....women belong in the kitchen...barefoot and pregnant!
I'm surprised that needs to be explained?
<above is sarcasm>
I'll take a driver that brings the car back in one piece, while finishing top ten in points for 6 of 7 seasons, over a Paul Tracy win-or-crash type any time.
But some figure if you don't win 2/3 of the races in a season you suck...
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