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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyZ1 View Post
    Still down -17% off 6% from last year
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    Per Jayski

    Final Auto Club 400 TV Ratings: Hampered by rain...,
    "Hampered by rain?"

    That makes it sound like the race was delayed. IIRC, it started on time as scheduled, and got well past the halfway point in one swoop (i.e., no red flags in the first half to kill momentum). If anything, the threat of rain approaching should have made the first half more interesting and kept people tuned in that would normally tune out at the mid-point and come back at the finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorindy View Post
    "Hampered by rain?"

    That makes it sound like the race was delayed. IIRC, it started on time as scheduled, and got well past the halfway point in one swoop (i.e., no red flags in the first half to kill momentum). If anything, the threat of rain approaching should have made the first half more interesting and kept people tuned in that would normally tune out at the mid-point and come back at the finish.
    It should have helped & not hampered the ratings. IMO.

    And it would have hurt the walk-up ticket sales, but it's not the lack of walk-up that was responsible for thousands of square feet of tarps.

    I don't think I'm alone in despising the cookie-cutter tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorindy View Post
    "Hampered by rain?"

    That makes it sound like the race was delayed. IIRC, it started on time as scheduled, and got well past the halfway point in one swoop (i.e., no red flags in the first half to kill momentum). If anything, the threat of rain approaching should have made the first half more interesting and kept people tuned in that would normally tune out at the mid-point and come back at the finish.
    I ranted about this in another thread but it really pissed me off so I'd though I'd drop it in here

    This is a nascar bash but its relevant. Yesterday during the CA race they ran the entire race with only the caution at the end for the rain that eventually ended the race. CA is notorious for long green flag runs and NASCAR's liberal usage of the debris flags during this event. One can only assume they kept the flags in there pockets due to the need for the race to get to 1/2 way. Fans can hate on street races, hate on the ICS for running those street races but when Helio started to check out you knew he was good to go unless he threw it away or somebody else wrecked. Its not the same at the cab races and I really hate that. Its so frustrating to me to see the series I love get trashed today for putting on a "boring race". Screw the haters I'd rather have a boring race then some manipulated event. It was a total joke and a slap in the face to racing fans to see what happened yesterday in CA. Helio earned that victory with a great pass and great driving. Was I kinda of hoping for a caution to close it up for a bit? A little but at the end of the day Helio had the best car and the field covered and he won the race. Which is exactly how its supposed to be.
    I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has

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    I saw no laps of the Cup race but after readng the posts here I find it AMAZING that there was no debris on a day where they REALLY wanted to get to halfway + 1 ASAP

    Damn near a miracle

    Or maybe hot dog wrappers and shop towels on the West Coast dont have as many jagged edges as the hot dog wrappers & shop towels in Charlotte, Atlanta, Dover, etc etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ View Post
    Or maybe hot dog wrappers and shop towels on the West Coast dont have as many jagged edges as the hot dog wrappers & shop towels in Charlotte, Atlanta, Dover, etc etc etc
    Out there it's all considered Toxic Waste and has to be properly disposed of!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    So if you're blaming nascar's continued ratings woes on anything other than the product then you are clearly in denial.

    "Ratings Woes"??? The Cup race has been the #1 rated sports entity on TV for at least 3 weekends this season.

    Are their ratings at the record levels they used to be? No. That wasn't sustainable. Would most major sports in this country like to trade places with them and have their 'troubles'? Yep.

    Heck a lot of sports (including the one run by Randy Bernard and the Hulman-George family) would like to be in the ballpark of what the Nationwide Series gets for their rating. When was the last time a non-Indy 500 IC race got a 1.7 final rating? Was Billy Boat still racing?

    I don't think they are going to be shuffled back to TNN anytime soon. They still have a whole lotta eyeballs watching them week-after-week-after-week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    "Ratings Woes"??? The Cup race has been the #1 rated sports entity on TV for at least 3 weekends this season.

    Are their ratings at the record levels they used to be? No. That wasn't sustainable. Would most major sports in this country like to trade places with them and have their 'troubles'? Yep.

    Heck a lot of sports (including the one run by Randy Bernard and the Hulman-George family) would like to be in the ballpark of what the Nationwide Series gets for their rating. When was the last time a non-Indy 500 IC race got a 1.7 final rating? Was Billy Boat still racing?

    I don't think they are going to be shuffled back to TNN anytime soon. They still have a whole lotta eyeballs watching them week-after-week-after-week.
    Yes, ratings woes. Have you not looked at the rating trends for the last 5 years?

    And yes, they will still have a lot of eyeballs on them, but there is a reason that the sanctioning body & their tv partners have had multiple summits over the past 24 month.


    Hint: This thread isn't about the ICS, The George Family, or Randy Bernard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ View Post
    I saw no laps of the Cup race but after readng the posts here I find it AMAZING that there was no debris on a day where they REALLY wanted to get to halfway + 1 ASAP

    Damn near a miracle

    Or maybe hot dog wrappers and shop towels on the West Coast dont have as many jagged edges as the hot dog wrappers & shop towels in Charlotte, Atlanta, Dover, etc etc etc
    Rather shocking, isn't it?

    I know I'll be watching my first laps since Daytona this weekend when they finally return to a good short track.

    Then it's off till Richmond.

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    Ratings were flat compared to last year, per Jayski of course

    Martinsville overnight TV Ratings posted: NASCAR Sprint Cup Racing on FOX posted a 3.9/9 metered market rating Sunday for the race from Martinsville Speedway. That’s flat with last year’s performance for the same race on the same weekend, and ranked as the highest-rated event of the day in the meters. Through six races, NASCAR Sprint Cup Racing on FOX is averaging a 4.8/10 in the meters, off -6% from last year’s 5.1/11. (4-2-2012)

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    It ranked as the highest-rated event of the day in the meters.
    Once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    I don't think they are going to be shuffled back to TNN anytime soon.
    TNN? Doesn't exist anymore. Changed formats to Spike TV a long time ago.

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    Well I certainly didn't expect it to tie the ten-year low for the race.

    Sprint Cup: Martinsville Race Ties Ten-Year Low in Overnight Ratings
    FOX was able to avoid another decline in overnights for Sunday’s Goody’s Fast Relief 500, but the numbers tied a ten-year low for the race.
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    Ouch.

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    Dang, with a 4.8 average rating I guess Cup is in a heap of trouble...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyZ1 View Post
    Ratings were flat compared to last year, per Jayski of course
    Not enough crashing for the NASCAR fans perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    Dang, with a 4.8 average rating I guess Cup is in a heap of trouble...
    No they aint going anywhere any time soon. But why was Kasey Kahnes sponsor a Rick Hendrick website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ View Post
    No they aint going anywhere any time soon. But why was Kasey Kahnes sponsor a Rick Hendrick website?
    You know things are rough for the Cup series when HMS/RFR has to field a car out of pocket.

    Even moreso when not one of the 53 cars entered thus far for the 2012 season has a singlular, full-season primary sponsor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    not one of the 53 cars entered thus far for the 2012 season has a singlular, full-season primary sponsor.
    I did not know that

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ View Post
    I did not know that
    Yep, and that's not a good thing. The cost of competing is clearly out of line with the ROI at present, and I'm not sure what can be done - or needs to be done, if anything - to "fix" that.

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    Like I said, Cup is in too much trouble as compared to other series...it was fun while it lasted...maybe they should go to a majority of street races to improve matters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    Like I said, Cup is in too much trouble as compared to other series...it was fun while it lasted...maybe they should go to a majority of street races to improve matters...
    Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    Yep, and that's not a good thing. The cost of competing is clearly out of line with the ROI at present, and I'm not sure what can be done - or needs to be done, if anything - to "fix" that.
    No idea. How do you tell teams to stop looking for speed?

    But I will guess that alot of teams wish they didnt try to keep up with the Joneses when they all built their Racing Industrial parks 5-10 years ago.

    Ive seen alot of them since I moved to the area. They are stunning.

    But you gotta wonder if some of the stunning buildings were just so much ego candy.

    Million dollar landscaping, dancing fountains and rock walls dont make the car 1mph faster.

    But the bank still expects the check every month. Just a WAG

    Seems like the top teams still feel like they need to roll out a new car every week to stay in the top 5 and Wind tunnels are still required too.

    Fuel Injection couldnt have come at a worse time for some of the teams even though it had to be done

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    Saving money can be very costly.

    And, in the face of that... yet another ratings drop:

    SMW:

    The NASCAR Sprint Cup Samsung Mobile 500 from Texas earned a 3.6 overnight rating on Saturday night, down a tick from last year (3.7), but up 6% from the comparable Subway Fresh Fit 500 from Phoenix in 2010 (3.4).

    The 3.6 overnight is the lowest ever for NASCAR’s spring Texas race. Keep in mind the race used to air on Sunday afternoon, a better window for television ratings than Saturday night.

    So far this season, six of the eight NASCAR Sprint Cup telecasts on FOX have had a decline in overnight ratings compared to last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    Saving money can be very costly.

    And, in the face of that... yet another ratings drop:

    SMW:
    That race was god awful boring. I don't expect much different @ Kansas this weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    Saving money can be very costly.

    And, in the face of that... yet another ratings drop:

    SMW:

    And yet, the Nationwide series isn't having those issues with TV ratings like Cup and IndyCar are so far this year (BTW- Travis Pastrana will be making his NW debut at Richmond on the 27th) :


    http://www.jayski.com/nationwide/nationwide.htm


    Texas TV ratings: ESPN2's live telecast of the NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Texas Motor Speedway on Friday night, April 13, earned a 1.2 household coverage rating, averaging 1,656,186 viewers, according to the Nielsen Company. The rating and viewership grew from last year's event, which earned a 1.1 rating and averaged 1,466,234 viewers. Ratings for the NASCAR Nationwide Series are up five percent so far this year across ESPN, ESPN2 and ABC compared to this point last year. Four of the six races have seen ratings and viewership increases over last year.(ESPN)(4-17-2012)
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    "And yet, the Nationwide series isn't having those issues with TV ratings like Cup and IndyCar are so far this year (BTW- Travis Pastrana will be making his NW debut at Richmond on the 27th)"

    Cup isn't that bad off...when was the last time Indy Car didn't have ratings problems...I know it's tough boys...but Cup ain't going anywhere...there is a reason for that...it resonates...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamonG19 View Post
    And yet, the Nationwide series isn't having those issues with TV ratings like Cup and IndyCar are so far this year (BTW- Travis Pastrana will be making his NW debut at Richmond on the 27th) :


    http://www.jayski.com/nationwide/nationwide.htm
    Nope, the NNS & the Trucks are seeing improved ratings.

    Truck ratings on Speed have been on a nice climb for a few years now.

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    deleted - double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    "And yet, the Nationwide series isn't having those issues with TV ratings like Cup and IndyCar are so far this year (BTW- Travis Pastrana will be making his NW debut at Richmond on the 27th)"

    Cup isn't that bad off...when was the last time Indy Car didn't have ratings problems...I know it's tough boys...but Cup ain't going anywhere...there is a reason for that...it resonates...
    Not quite "resonating" like it used to, is it?

    It used to be "must see tv" for huge stock car fans like me... but now, not so much. And I am obviously not alone in that regard.

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    Cant I take one guess why Nationwide is enjoying a bump this year?

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    Ok. Guess. Kev.

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