Originally Posted by Gomer Simpson
"The number of threads by one poster in the OT is getting a little out of hand, IMHO. "
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I got that - it was just hard to resist based on the quoted post.
No. Multiple sources have confirmed in Seattle that a team is looking to sign Manning and then trade their starting QB and the same sources say it is not the Jets or Miami.
That is classic... so long as it's a joke.
That is a joke, right?
New Orleans has some big issues - Brees and management are at least $5 million apart and NO does not want to franchise him as they have 3 other players they are desperate to keep, WR Marques Colston, G Carl Nick and TE Robert Meacham. They are going to have to franchise one of them and that means they can't franchise Brees......... who is 33, just 3 years younger than Peyton.
Brees is looking for a multi-year deal of $22 million a year for 4-5 years, $45-50 million gtd. That's a ton of money for a guy who could be out of the League after one bad play. The Saints could sign Manning to an incentive-laden deal, wave goodbye to Brees and go find the next QB which they are going to have to do, anyway. Manning and Brees have the same agent so the deals could be worked out simultaneously.
Seattle is going to bring in a new QB. The GM says they are not going to "mortgage the farm" for Luck or RG III. They are apparently not interested in Matt Flynn so that leaves drafting Ryan Tannehill or Brandon Weeden or signing someone else. I don't believe they are interested in Peyton - but they are interested in whoever gets released to make room for him.
I've heard Brees name mentioned. I've also heard that AZ is talking to Peyton but I doubt that the Cardinals would make a deal with a team in their own division by trading Kolb.
Reports are that Manning has made some solid progress in the last few weeks.
Robert Meacham is not a tight end and I really doubt NO is desparate to keep him. Maybe you meant Graham but he isn't a free agent.New Orleans has some big issues - Brees and management are at least $5 million apart and NO does not want to franchise him as they have 3 other players they are desperate to keep, WR Marques Colston, G Carl Nick and TE Robert Meacham.
I guess one element that I was not thinking about is that Peyton is from Louisiana. He might be the one guy Saints fans would take in exchange for Brees without getting out the pitch forks and storming the owner's house. None the less, it would be insane for NO to let Brees go. Yes he is only 3 years younger than Peyton, but were it not for the neck issues Peyton would likely play another 3-4 years.
Also to Wilke too, but isn't Seattle a possibility for Flynn? Also, Manning's not coming to C-town. Even this Browns fan knows this.
As for Jason Campbell (or Kyle Orton, Matt Hasselbeck, etc), where's the vomit icon?
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I know it's not going to happen, but Brees is one of the few guys I'd be okay to give up P. Manning for. Bring "home" the Boiler and one of the top three QBs in the game today along with Rodgers and P. Manning.
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Back when he was at San Diego and coming to Indy to play a game he made some comment about never wanting to live in Indiana again. Andrew Luck is literally the only player to me that is worth giving up the last couple of years of Peyton's career for, assuming he is healthy.I know it's not going to happen, but Brees is one of the few guys I'd be okay to give up P. Manning for. Bring "home" the Boiler and one of the top three QBs in the game today along with Rodgers and P. Manning.
All the latest scuttlebutt is that Cleveland is going to make the deal with St Louis for RG III. leaving Washington and Miami looking hard at Flynn.
Seattle GM John Schneider was previously at Green Bay, knows Flynn well and word is he's not interested. Seattle looked at Campbell when he went to Oakland and passed and he has not improved. Tenn won't sign Peyton, they have Jake Locker ready to go and Seattle won't take Matt H back; fine guy but he's just about done. Kyle Orton? No.
I heard rumblings a few months ago that Tampa was looking to move Josh Freeman and KC is not thrilled with Matt Cassell; I suppose Peyton could land at one of those spots. Arizona is also a possible home although they won't deal with Seattle and send Kevin Kolb there.
If Cleveland moves up to get RGIII then it will be interesting to see if Minnesota goes for Matt Kalil or Justin Blackmon. Blackmon is a rare receiver, very Andre or Calvin Johnson like. Before the RGIII hype really ramped up it was assumed St Louis would take Blackmon. They could use Kalil too, though, which could free Saffold up to go back to RT.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76...s-sources-sayuThe New Orleans Saints and quarterback Drew Brees are millons of dollars apart on a new contract as the Monday franchise tag deadline draws near, sources tell ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
The two sides, both of which believe they are making a fair offer, are facing a gap of $5 million per season for the first three seasons of the proposal, sources told Schefter.
Brees, who led the Saints to their only Super Bowl championship and last season broke Dan Marino's single-season passing yards record, is seeking a contract that averages $23 million per season for the first three years of his deal, sources told Schefter.
That's the same amount Peyton Manning's Colts contract averages the first three seasons.
But the Saints are offering Brees a five-year contract that averages $18 million a year, sources told Schefter, which is the average that Manning and New England's Tom Brady are due to earn over the life of their deals.
Brady's contract averages $18 million in the first three years, like the Saints' current offer to Brees.
If the two sides cannot make considerable progress from where they are now, the Saints will be forced to use their franchise tag on Brees by the Monday deadline.
http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/eagles...72&feedID=3041It took a natural disaster for the New Orleans Saints to be desperate enough to sign Drew Brees in 2006. Six glorious years later, the team is privately trying to sell itself on the notion that Brees is simply a “very good” quarterback.
That was the word coming out of the NFL scouting combine this past week, when Saints general manager Mickey Loomis tried to define Brees as “very good” when the quarterback was called “great,” according to three league sources. All three sources were asking Loomis why it was taking so long to sign Brees to a contract extension. Loomis’ answer spoke volumes.
Franchise Colston, sign Nicks, let Meacham walk. Sign and trade Brees, then sign Peyton - both are clients of Tom Condon.
On the other hand, if NO franchises Brees, he's unhappy because the franchise tag is lower than what he could make on the free market and Marques Colston signs with another team that needs WRs like Cleveland or the Rams.
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Minnesota desperately needs both Kalil and Blackmon.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...urn-optimisticAs the Peyton Manning saga inches towards a conclusion, optimism quietly is emerging that the quarterback will be ready for the 2012 season.
Following comments made by Jeff Saturday last weekend during NFL Network's coverage of the combine -- the Colts center said, "He'll be playing football, I can assure you that" -- three sources with knowledge of Manning's rehab said that he's improved steadily in recent weeks in regaining strength in his grip and triceps, the two areas weakened by nerve damage.
The result has been heightened throwing strength, though the rate of improvement, a key in all of this, is unclear. But it's been enough to have those around the quarterback convinced that he'll be ready to play in 2012. One source said Manning "feels good" about where he is in the recovery process.
Manning has staged his most recent workouts in South Florida, where he has an offseason home. He worked out near Duke University earlier in the offseason as well, with David Cutcliffe, his offensive coordinator as a collegian at Tennessee, overseeing the sessions. The quarterback has tried to work with different people over the past two months, in order to have more opinions on how he can improve.
It's interesting, Jim. Nat'l media folks seem convinced the Browns will do this. After all, as Schefty has pointed out, we have the best bullets to offer. BUTTTT, the local perspective is much more doubtful. Scuttlebutt from Dec./Jan. was that the Browns were "devastated" when Barkley announced he was coming back to SC. Why? B/c they see him as a better "system fit," and a lot of us suspect the Browns are "meh" on RGIII b/c he might not precisely fit their precious system.
Just yesterday, Pat Shurmur talked up Ryan Tannehill. In isolation, smokescreen, right? But it's been thought for Months that they REALLY DO like Tannehill, and my fear is that this is no smokescreen. Instead, it's the process of preparing fans for Tannehill at #4 or, more likely IMHO, trade down a few from 4, then grab Tannehill.
This regime LOVES draft picks. Unless they're 100% sold on RGIII, and I don't think they will be, this isn't happening.
Apparently there is a video of Peyton throwing in Flordia....and I guess he is throwing well. Talk about nice timing to release the video.
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The purported video of Manning was shot at Duke
Many very interesting observations with this video. One, he doesn't look absolutely 100% but certainly doesn't look like he has a noodle arm. Second, was this intentionally leaked by the Manning camp? Third, interesting that he is wearing his Colts helmet.
Going to be a very interesting next couple of weeks.
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Apparently throwing to Collie, Dallas Clark and former Colt Brandon Stokely.
Of course that was leaked intentionally by Manning's camp. This coming week will be very interesting. But I will say that I am ready for it to be over either way.
I dunno, looks like a cell phone video shot from behind some pads or barriers. If Manning was going to leak something, it would be longer and of higher quality.
Guerrilla marketing ?
. You guys make absolutely no sense. If Manning is throwing well, nothing will be leaked, it will be a huge media day to show everyone that he is ready to go.
There are so many rules that I can't keep up with who can do what. But how Manning would show his abilities would depend on who he wants to show them to, right? Is he trying to get support from Colts fans to pressure Irsay into keeping him?
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Whether he leaked it or not there is no downside to him of this being out there. The soon-to-be biggest free agent in the history of the NFL just raised a bunch of eyebrows around the league.
Yep, it's Zapruder like so it appears someone "secretly" taped it so not in violation of any rules. It's also good enough to get a peak that he doesn't have a noodle arm, but it's a from behind shot so it's difficult to tell the true velocity. Brilliant!
You can't really tell if it's actually Peyton. #18 jersey, Colts helmet, could be Truthie for all we know. Heard he has a decent arm.
What violation would keep MAnning from putting out a video showing him throwing?
No, this is the way you make it appear someone else did it. Totally timed for the deadline.
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Saints have franchised Brees so that throws most all the speculation off for youse guys.......I listened to satellite radio the other day with Archie Manning and he said that Peyton is throwing as well as he ever has...............
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