IU gets a #4 in the south. So of course they will play in the town that is synonymous with the south -- Portland, Oregon.
IU gets a #4 in the south. So of course they will play in the town that is synonymous with the south -- Portland, Oregon.
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If IU wins 1st round game they will likely play Wichita St which will be a very interesting early matchup. If can escape that with a W will likely have a rematch with UK. Would be awfully fun to play them again, maybe finally get some payback for 1975 tournament loss which is perhaps the most painful loss ever for IU.
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Pod system. That lose against WISCONSIN killed all chances for IU getting a better first round site...I.e., Nashville.
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The Badgers have the #4 seed in the east. They will therefore head directly to Albuquerque. Obviously.Originally Posted by Truth Detector
IU gets a #4 in the south. So of course they will play in the town that is synonymous with the south -- Portland, Oregon.
Surprised Purdue is just a 10 seed. Thought they would be rewarded with at least a 9 due to talent level of B1G.
NC State and Notre Dame ended up being quality wins for IU as both teams made the tournament.
Wow. Tough draw too. Potentially Vandy in the 2nd round?The Badgers have the #4 seed in the east. They will therefore head directly to Albuquerque. Obviously.
Yeah it is. I'd love to see them make the second week, but they are so hot and cold it is hard to figure which team will be there. If a hot shooting Badger team doesn't show up, they are toast that game. Second round should be interesting for a bunch of teams.Wow. Tough draw too. Potentially Vandy in the 2nd round?
Why do teams with automatic bids cheer and celebrate after they're announced as, like, a #14 seed? I've seen #16 seeds do the chest thumping and celebrating.
That gets me ever year.
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Hey Danny... there was no reason to bring up 1975.
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I'm watching members of the Selection Committee harp on and on and about strength of schedule and how teams have to schedule better opponents.
If you're a Mid-Major you almost never get to schedule home games against teams from power conferences unless one coach is doing another a favor (maybe the coach of the Mid-Major was an assistant under the coach of the power conference team). They have to take the games they can get, and any home games out of conference will be against teams from the bottom feeder conferences. I'm sure teams from the Missouri Valley, Horizon, Colonial etc. would dearly love to play more power conference teams at home but they can't get anyone to play them. There is no NCAA rule when it comes to scheduling out of conference, it's every team for itself.
The Mid-Majors are in an annual Catch-22. They are told they have a strong strength of schedule to get an at-large bid, but they can't get anyone to play them and no one is forcing any power conference team to go to the home court of a Mid-Major. And if a Mid-Major happens to be really good, a power conference team sure as hell won't play them anywhere (much less on the home court of the Mid-Major) because the power conference school doesn't want that loss on it's resume.
Yep. The directions (East, South, etc.) don't have any actual validity until the regional round. In the first two rounds, they try to keep you close to home, but there aren't enough teams out west to go places like Portland and Albuquerque.
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It is a catch-22 for mid-majors but I think this is used more so to punish major conference teams who don't play anyone outside of conference. Missouri was specifically mentioned this year - they barely were a 2 seed even though they won 30 games. MSU had a worse record and was a 1 seed primarily because they had a very difficult pre-conference schedule.
MSU had the number 1 toughest schedule in country. Missouri only played one team in the non conference that is in the tourney and that is Notre Dame who they beat.
All true, however a guy on the committee said Missouri was never in danger of being a 3.
In fairness to the teams in conferences like the SWAC, who serve up their teams as sacrificial lambs every year and the conference collectively wins hardly any non-conference games, those games against power conference schools are "money games" that pay for other sports.
You are describing Long Beach State here. They went to Pitt (when they were ranked #9) and won, went to San Diego St, Louisville, Kansas, North Carolina and Creighton and played well, but lost. They also lost in the championship game in Hawaii to Kansas St. They went 15-1 in the Big West and had they lost the conference tourney, they probably wouldn't have made it as an at-large. As a result they get a #12 seed and play New Mexico.
If you break a vase and then glue it back together and the vase loses it's value, you do not get credit for fixing it. You get the blame for damaging it....
That is a brutal out of conference schedule and is a great example of a mid-major team that is going to be ready to ball against a "big" team.
This is why college basketball is so great - once you get in, your seed doesn't determine how you are going to play. We've seen 15 seeds win and 12 seeds winning really isn't even a shock anymore. We're going to see a #1 seed lose one of these days. I'd be shocked if we don't have another mid-major in the final 8 this year. There are now so many veteran mid-major teams with great coaches and good talent that it provides for great March theatre.
As far as Gotlieb, he is the prototypical ESPN headline grabber. They pay their guys to be obnoxious and controversial and nothing gets attention more than derogatory comments about teams with large and passionate fan bases.
They had the #1 out of conference schedule. They were in most of the games and 3-4 of their losses were close and easily could have gone the other way.
IU plays @ 9:35 on Thursday on CBS. Purdue plays @ 7:37 Friday on TruTv.
Who said Doug Gottlieb ranks above Internet posters?
Anyways he's still hurting from us spanking Notre Dame.
He doesn't.
I get his angle though.
We play well at home, and are iffy on the road. I agree with him.
Even at a somewhat "neutral" Conseco Fieldhouse in the BTT, we squander to a team that we should be fairly even with.
The Ken, Mich, OSU, and Mich St wins are great, don't get me wrong. Even the ND win looks good now...but I'd like to have beaten just one ranked team on the road, or at a neutral site. I'd have alot more confidence in these guys if we could have pulled that off...and we never did.
We'll see.
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#10 Purdue (-1) opens as a favorite against #7 St. Mary's
Other worse-seeded faves:
#9 UConn (-2) vs. #8 Iowa State*
#10 West Virginia (-1) vs. #7 Gonzaga
#11 NC State (-2) vs. #6 San Diego St.*
#9 Alabama (-1.5) vs. #8 Creighton*
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Other lines of local interest:
#4 Wisconsin (-9.5) vs. #13 Montana
#4 Indiana (-6) vs. #13 New Mexico State
#2 Ohio State (-17.5) vs. #15 Loyola-MD
#4 Michigan (-6) vs. #13 Ohio
#1 Michigan State (-20) vs. #16 Long Island
#7 Notre Dame (-2.5) vs. #10 Xavier
Portland Oregon is certainly not a home game for either team and this year I don't think anybody is going to be all that dominant... Michgan State got trashed on the road in Bloomington, not a squeaker like the Kentucky game but literally trashed and still are walking off with a Number one seed.
It wasn't that I was disagreeing with what he said as much as I don't find being hired by ESPN as a step up the ladder from being just an Internet poster. Anyways working for ESPN normally results in being more swayed by the momentary hype than the common man.
Well, I don't trust us....and I'm a fan. I would have had alot more confidence in us had we taken down those nerds from Wisconsin, and given MSU a run in a neutral setting....but as is....with another BTT weekend with nothing to watch....if we make it through the first weekend I'll consider it a success.
If Kentucky beats us...whatever. Sucks that the NCAA would make us play them again, but obviously they see the potential ratings blip from a game of that stature in the Regional Semi's.
If possible, rematches are avoided only up to the "third round" (the round of 32). Once you get to the Sweet 16, there are too few teams and too many previous matchups to avoid.
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Speaking of the Badgers, I learned something about them today. Apparently Pomeroy keeps a stat for tempo, believe it or not. Wisconsin ranks 344 out of 345 teams in that category, playing faster only than Western Illinois. I thought that was pretty interesting/funny.
Yes, and that's one of the problems with the potential football playoff that doesn't get addressed a lot in the uproar. It still is, but even worse a few years ago pre-pod, where some of these 1st-2nd round sites were ghost towns because how much can you expect alumni to travel around the country especially for the early rounds. Plus, you're only trying to fill up maybe 15,000-20,000 seats.
For football, expecting 25,000 people to travel to a neutral site even say it's the Rose Bowl, to only expect them to do it again next week to say Miami or New Orleans is asking way too much.
Matt, IU has three road-or-neutral wins over NCAA teams seeded higher than NM State. Don't fall into Gottlieb's trap.
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