The powers that be actually can get minute by minute ratings from Nielsen if they want. That'd give you a really good idea of how many people flip away during a caution.Originally Posted by skypigeon
The powers that be actually can get minute by minute ratings from Nielsen if they want. That'd give you a really good idea of how many people flip away during a caution.
Local ABC affiliate says a record crowd of 125,000.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/new...er-of-attendes
Wow, and they couldn't even half fill the tiny pitlane bleachers.....must have all been hiding in the shade again.
...the spice must flow.....
That's weekend attendance.
I am a fan of the IZOD IndyCar Series, Formula 1, and AMA Supercross in that respective order.
Much of the St. Pete walking traffic is obscured by trees on most of the ABC shots. If you look at the main pit lane stands, they were full at the green flag, and then people get up and walk around.
Wanker!
So thats how Bristol got to 102,000
Faster than a bullet from a gun
He is faster than everyone
Quicker than the blinking of an eye
Like a flash you could miss him going by
No one knows quite how he does it but it's true they say
He's the master of going faster. -George Harrison
OHHHHHH ... the circle continues to draw complete. Trackforum Indycar fans championing ... the weekend attendance.
BTW... I thought the crowd looked good early. Halfway through the race... wow..... I couldn't believe how sparse the front straight looked. We're lucky if 30% was still there when they went through the last pit stops. And its never a good thing that 70% of your attendance just gets up halfway through the main race to ... do something other than watch what they're paying for.
"There are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case. Coincidence?... I think not." - A wise fisherman
You could add up the last 4 years raceday attendance and not get to 125,000.
Prime Minister of Gackland
They weren't close to "full" at the green flag. HD doesn't lie.
Why do all of these people get up and "walk around" during the entirety of the race? You'd think all of these rabid race fans that St. Pete has created over the years, would want to be somewhere where they could watch the racing action?
My favorite was at the Baltimore GP a good amount of people just got up and left after about half of the race.
Those same posters who championed weekend attendance figures at other websites are now on here.OHHHHHH ... the circle continues to draw complete. Trackforum Indycar fans championing ... the weekend attendance.
"This weekend, the city of St. Petersburg was taken over by 125,000 racing fans from all over the world."OHHHHHH ... the circle continues to draw complete. Trackforum Indycar fans championing ... the weekend attendance.
BTW... I thought the crowd looked good early. Halfway through the race... wow..
That's what happens when you merge two fanbases.
"Each day well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well therefore to this one day for it, and it alone, is life"
~ Sanskrit poem attributed to Kalidasa, "Salutation to the Dawn"
Brian's Wish
Or make them cellies...
No man can cause more grief than that one clinging blindly to the vices of his ancestors. - William Faulker
because to some its fun to go to differant turns.. Ive attended every type race imaginable over the last 55 yrs of fanship,, From winchester to indy to mosport,, midgets, sprints dirt cars all open wheel at all places they run
street races have a variety of ways to enjoy them. Its ok that some dont have your view,
the sliding on the streets seen up close is very exciting,,,,
st pete has a number of places that are neat to stop for a few laps and then move on,, More so ,you can get really close,,,, feel the acceleration far better than 100 feet away in a seat, to each his own.
as for passing? in the 60s there were very few passes at winchester, dayton and salem,, it was early pack racing and one pass would make the day sometimes,, strategy was huge to set it up
It wasnt legislated foot on the floor,, it was just very equal drivers who would sometimes out brave the other braking,
didnt miss a show at those places Todd for 10 yrs straight, My dad who started his race attendence in 1935 walked out of most of them saying " just another follow the leader race" " why do we keep coming to these things?"
interesting huh?
I love the sport more than I hate the past,
Haha... now we're championing Indycar ' global reach' too.
Ironically, I'd say the circle started with "What's a Helio?" on that very marked day. Now he's one of 'our' stars and now these are 'our' 3 day attendances and now this is our 'global' reach.
Pretty funny isn't?Haha... now we're championing Indycar ' global reach' too.
Ironically, I'd say the circle started with "What's a Helio?" on that very marked day. Now he's one of 'our' stars and now these are 'our' 3 day attendances and now this is our 'global' reach.
Only a few of us have not changed our philosophies over the years.
That should tell you something.
And don't forget Tora Tora Tora.
So far my predictions have been proven right.
The series is going no where. There is no momentum.
I would wager that RB is gone within 3 years, he is going to be running out of ideas shortly and will either take another job or step down.
well.. ones mans nowhere is someone elses somewhere,,,,,,
If the series was gaining momentum the season opening race would not have a TV ratings drop.
While I don't share quite as pessimistic fate as you... it would be quite poetic to reply with one of our famous TF excuses... 'give it another year'.
Well Tim, with all due respect, "no where" is not where it's at for me.
I'm glad we've got the new season going, I'm glad that the new car finally has its maiden race in, and I'm REALLY glad that there is a race this weekend, and I'll call that momentum any day. Go IndyCar!!
So less than the rib fest... and they all got up so as to not look at the cars or the sponsors on them. Where do i sign up for this goldrush?
Since RB, we've seen:
- More fully sponsored rides
- Larger fields
- An incremental increase in TV ratings (despite just the one for St. Pete)
- A better, more defined ladder-system
- New Cars
- More engine manufacturers
The schedule could be better, and we could see more talented Americans in the sport, but I'm happy and the mood is completely different from where we were in 2008.
I guess I share paper's view.
in my five decades of indycar Ive seen larger drops and a huge climb back more than once
I have no doubt we can see one again
after this past weekend , visiting all my friends from my champcar days,, Im gonna go with thier opinions and drive to make this happen
works for me,, try it sometime,,,
beats the hell out of wanting roadsters back or the series being forever where you came in,
its always found a way to go on,, Is a tv rating really the final epitaph? If so indycar would have been dead decades ago,, wow.. it wasnt,, isnt and wont be
it will just be dead to those who wont follow its next direction,
my five decades have been good because I have always given whatevers next a chance.....guess what,, Im gonna keep that up. the alternative sucks
so some of you are campaigning for failure to comfort your lack of satisfaction? actually thats beyond sadly embarassing and I dont think you even realize it.......
-We've seen more primary sponsors refuse to sponsor the entire season.
- Larger fields with a price ceiling on equipment that is bad for the overall market
- The series lie about an increase in TV ratings, the mean rating did not move so much as a standard deviation.
- An investment in the ladder system with no particular purpose as most drivers are ignored.
- Cars picked without a basis for future strategy that took the green with an aero package meant for show, not racing.
- More engine manufacturers, less power and no relevant performance gap on the track. Cars remain planted and in control of the engineer rather than the driver.
Randy has thrown as much garbage at the wall in as short of a period of time as possible. But instead of throwing things at the wall and hoping they attract attention, he should have started with a strategy to regain fans. The fact that he gave the critical decision of what car to use for the future of Indycar to guys like Eddie Gossage tells you all you need to know. GM may as well have Ralph Nader choose what their next cars will look like... why put your business in the hands of outside parties with their own agendas?
There is a marked difference between campaigning for failure and acknowledging that the series is on a path for failure. Most attempts to point out the missing financial structure for races that attract fewer fans than an event that goes off for $18k in white river park every year in Indianapolis just get lumped in the "I hope the series fail" pail because thats where you believe they should be.
The 500 and the series can not afford to drive cars that will attract new fans and viewers because it insists on cutting equipment costs in order to afford a dozen races that operate at a loss. The longer it is prolonged the more the interest in the 500 wanes.
The series is not supporting the 500. If you combine the total viewers for the first 4 races they are not going to add up to the total viewers for the 500... yet the assumption that there must be a series remains. At what race this year will the total cumulative attendance for qualifications and the race equal the total attendance for Indy qualifications and the 500? Thank goodness we have a cheap ass car so we can run all of these races that bring absolutely zero new attention to the 500.
Now lets promote our way out of this fiasco of a business model!
How would we recognize a strategy to regain fans? What would it include?
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