New thoughts on the new cars

[Jim Wilke]

I thought in the static views I saw and a couple of short videos that the new car looked swoopy, even a little futuristic.

Wrong.

Covered with livery and set up with road course wings, they just look bulbous and dumb.

[eastofeastside]

Too much bodywork and not enough horsepower.

Besides ugly, these cars look slow.

[BizzyV]

I agree they look slow, really good grippy and calm in the corners but they just don't accellerate hard enough visually for my taste. I don't mind their looks though.

Was this worth a thread? Really?

[Lemming51]

I think they look great. YMMV.
Contrats Helio!!, Penske, Chev-ro-lay! and InnyCars!

[Ryan1248]

I thought the same thing. In pics they looked ok. As I watched the race I kept thinking, "They look huge.....and slow"

[CincyIndy]

I think they look great...

[skypigeon]

I agree they look slow, really good grippy and calm in the corners but they just don't accellerate hard enough visually for my taste. I don't mind their looks though.

Yeah, same here. Might just be a street thing. Hopefully on an oval they'll change my mind.

[lizardfolk]

Yeah, same here. Might just be a street thing. Hopefully on an oval they'll change my mind.

Don't really understand how the DW12 looks noticeably slower than the IR03 at St. Pete

[skypigeon]

--shrug--

I really don't know. That's just how it appears to me, compared to the old cars.

Seriously--I think it's the flared bodywork in the back. It draws your eye like no other part of the car, so your eye focuses there and misses the speed. Kind of like focusing on one blade of a spinning fan--the whole mechanism seems to slow down.

Maybe if I just keep my eyes off its ass I'll be all right. Good general advice in life, y'know?

[ttturner68]

Don't really understand how the DW12 looks noticeably slower than the IR03 at St. Pete

Didn't look slower, it sounded slower It looked more poised through the corners.

No way it looked slower just was more refined. Which sorry is darn fine with me.

[R2D2]

Too much bodywork and not enough horsepower.

Besides ugly, these cars look slow.

+1

[Red Byrd]

I am opposite: I am ok with the look, I hate the sound.

So down and depressing to hear

[Baigu]

For me, love the sound, like the front of the car, Hate the rear of the car ( I don't mean the bumper) Hopefully the body kit designers will have enough freedom to make a difference. And yes, more power would be fun, but it's the first year of those engines, I expect them to increase hp in years to come.

[MS]

The bumper takes some getting used to.

I honestly didn't care if the engines were normally aspirated or turbocharged, they sound fine to me.

[dcpduke]

I think its the sound, they seem fast enough but it doesn't SCREAM like you would like it too. Too me its the SOUND of the cars very muffled.

[GerryK]

I Hate the view from behind, the bumper, looks like the bumper cars at Hershey Park!

[Bullers]

I am opposite: I am ok with the look, I hate the sound.

So down and depressing to hear

Same here. I've never been one of the haters of the new body but the more the race wore on the more I like it. But yeah the sound...gonna take some getting used to.

[mattf765]

I am opposite: I am ok with the look, I hate the sound.

So down and depressing to hear

+1

[bduddy]

I like them. They could use more HP, but it seems like they actually can pass; it's just that video of those passes is classified, or at least that's how ABC acts.

[Mikemat5150]

I do like the look of the new car but the chassis has given us a great race. A lot of teams mixing it up in front, some attrition, and a great race overall. We've got a year with the aero package.

[Doyouloveit?]

I like the cars....

[rodneyh]

From the rear, they look like hovercrafts.

[dcpduke]

More Power !!

[Miguel]

I'm not one to complain much, but since this thread is already here: just when this car was starting to grow a little bit on me, I see this car race. It's just awful to look at, I almost would've rather closed my eyes. The cars look like dragsters with their parachutes opened, both in design as in feeling of speed. Get rid of those bumpers, too wide sidepods and the way too long and wide underwing, and I might actually like them.

[sabin_24]

I'm not one to complain much, but since this thread is already here: just when this car was starting to grow a little bit on me, I see this car race. It's just awful to look at, I almost would've rather closed my eyes. The cars look like dragsters with their parachutes opened, both in design as in feeling of speed. Get rid of those bumpers, too wide sidepods and the way too long and wide underwing, and I might actually like them.

Pretty much my sentiments, too. If they had 100-200 more hp, I think I'd be able to tolerate the looks a bit more. Like the last car, they looked slow out of the corners.

[ARROWZ46]

I'm not one to complain much, but since this thread is already here: just when this car was starting to grow a little bit on me, I see this car race. It's just awful to look at, I almost would've rather closed my eyes. The cars look like dragsters with their parachutes opened, both in design as in feeling of speed. Get rid of those bumpers, too wide sidepods and the way too long and wide underwing, and I might actually like them.

With respect my friend, your comments are a bit funny (but I totally agree with 'em). However, that would be like saying the Pontiac Aztek is growing on me...

... if the designers changed the front end... the rear end, the C-Pilar, the wheels, etc

The side pods, bumpers & underwing are a major part of the overall Indycar design & changing them would greatly change the whole look of this car. Keep praying for the 2013 aero kits... its our chance to beautify the ICS!!!

[goldie19]

I thought cars looked great and sounded fine.

The anti bumper crowd that was complaining about carbon fiber everywhere and thought this was an aero piece....epic fail y'all. I didnt see anyone change a bumper, and they did get hit

[vowcarta]

The reason why they looked slow is because they were on a slow circuit.....I'm sure they'll come alive when we see them in the faster turns. (The ovals, Sonoma esses etc). I love the on boards, the rear wheel views and airbox cameras in particular. The lack of sidepods on airbox view reminds me of the Brabham BT52. Very cool.

[JMFVET]

Just saw the thread and way behind but my first and only comment is, where does the OP get off calling these new thoughts. This is what we have been hearing from many here since the announcement. If you want to B&M at least admit your jumping on the band wagon not pulling it.

[Luy]

Just saw the thread and way behind but my first and only comment is, where does the OP get off calling these new thoughts. This is what we have been hearing from many here since the announcement. If you want to B&M at least admit your jumping on the band wagon not pulling it.

While I agree with your sentiment, it was actually a moderator who changed the title of the thread. Originally it was something like, "Changed my mind: this car is ugly"...