I'm tired of the lack of enthusiasm and what really burns my arse is these guys telling me things that I am already seeing. I don't need somebody to tell me (fans) what I am already watching, I need people telling me (fans) what I don't know, don't see, I want people who can anticipate! I want people who can tell a story and who can recognize when the story is changing. These guys suck at it!!!
"Try some of these before or after your statements if you are not presenting them as facts. Things like - "In my opinion", or "I think that", JHMO, IMHO, IMO, JMO... Your opinions are not (necessarily) fact. That would clear things up some." - Seadog 03/25/2010 11:40am So the above is JMO.
I was thinking, why can't Indy Car just mimic F1? Camera Angles are awesome, excitement building before the race, great analysis. I also have to wonder how much is the track? Being able to get the long shots all over helps F1, but I do think their angles are far better than anything INDYCAR does.Originally Posted by Indy kiwi
We need a smart guy with a British type accent, cooler camera angles, and enginees that sound like they are screaming fast. Its really the whole experience. I have dedicated a good portion of my professional life supporting this sport, so I am not a constant basher. But INDYCAR needs to perfect its image, this ABC and even the NBC Sports feeds aren't helping.
They showed a replay. He punted Carpenter.
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Even if the race was boring as hell, their job is to make it as exciting as possible!!! That's the secret of broadcasting FFS!!!
My friend watched the race with me and asked,"do these announcers know anything that's happening in the race?. I mean they say what usually happens and what has happened before, but do they know what's going on with the drivers right now?"
Man I really like street courses but I won't argue that todays race was boring. That happens with motorsports sometimes. But the announcing was terrible. They ran out of things to talk about. I could have done the same job as them!
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Look what the F1 guys bring in their coverage? Knowledge and complete understanding of the sport. Enthusisam and a keen sense of interest. They can anticipate how things will unfold and make viewers aware of what they should be watching for.
It's precisely those reasons that made Dan Wheldon so popular amongst fans and why it was so refreshing when he hopped into the booth.
Neither the ABC team or the Versus team bring those qualities. Versus only appears good because they don't suck as bad as ABC. But Versus is no better.
There was a lot going on out there and plenty of material to work from. A number of different strategies, a number of things unfolding, a number of issues that arose, not to mention a brand new car to follow, and new teams and drivers.
There was plenty of stuff going on behind the top three that never got shown. If you were reading twitter during the race, you would have read all the stuff they were missing.
Just be glad the sport is relevant enough to be on broadcast, over the air TV. And it's not like being on another network would somehow magically give us three wide, side by side racing. It's still a street course race, no matter who is in the broadcast booth or the production truck.
"We see them come. We see them go. Some are fast. And some are slow."--Dr. Suess
And they missed nearly all of it.
ABC's coverage was bad...but since I don't have VS. I got to see if they have IMS radio this year on IndyCar Nation.
My problem were like eveyrone else's...late problems with Hillebrand, Seasbass, and Dario. I would like to know why he was an afterthought the last half of the race...I didn't evne know he finished 13th until I saw the final boxscore. That's because the local ABC affiliate went to local progrqamming after Helio slapped the Dan Wheldon Way sign. But they had an excuse...the local ABC and Fox stations are owned by the same company!!!
At least the NASCAR race put me to sleep; I need the rest before I go to work tonight.
I don't know what was wrong with Goodyear and Reid today, usually they're a little dull, but today they just seemed flat-out bored.
I got tired of hearing 'four tires and a chassis adjustment', It's always four and they adjust the wings. Has a modern Indycar team ever taken just two tires?
I don't see why they would. There's a man over the wall to change each tire, so it wouldn't save them any time.
Now that is just funny.Good thing they brought Jamie Little over to cover that for us.
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I know!! I know!!
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"You people worry too much. Strive for change. Root for your favorites. Enjoy the racing. Drop the flag." rev-ed, 3/04
I've been critical of ABC before, and I don't think this was the worst ever. I wonder if it was simply hard to do...this is the first time everyone has been "back together" since they closed the broadcast on Oct. 16th. Clearly the participants had a hard time this weekend, perhaps Marty and Scott were too. That might explain their perceived lack of total enthusiasm.
GONZO!!!!!!!!! you made my day with this post and pic lol... seriously i am dying laughing so much.
As usual, the coverage from Eore and Mister Side by Side was absolutely atrociuos. They make me want to turn off the TV and go vomit!!! Hear that Randy? They are turning me and other fans completely off, just imagine what they are doing to the new fans.
There is a complete and entire lack of enthusiasm on Eore's part, and Mister Side by Side has absolutely no interest or clue about what it is he is covering. These guys have been one of the biggest anchors weighing this series down since they each got involved with the sport.
You know, umm... there is a driver that could work in the ABC booth most Sundays, ya know?
Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that's what gets you.
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Exactly. Who's tires are going away quicker? who's complaining about thier car? how about some fuel calculations? I think Helio was very close on fuel toward the end. No information.
Without all the information, it is just a bunch of cars parading around, and them like magic drivers like Charlie Kimbal go from 16th to 9th and we will never know why.
At least Versus shows us where the battles are instead of showing us the leaders all the damn time.
So we lower our standards and just accept a crap presentation? HELL NO! The lowering of standards is why IndyCar is where it is in the national lime light. Non existent.
The coverage was dull and missing why Seabass retired was inexcusable. Say what you will about Mike, Darrell, and Larry they sound excited about what they are doing. Larry Mac may massacre the English language, but he gives insight into the mind of the crew chiefs and forecasts what strategies we can expect to play out. Yeah, Darrell is obnoxious but I'd rather him be that way because he exudes passion for the sport than Scott Goodyear who sounds like he just woke up after sleeping for 16 hours.
The bottom line is things were happening on the track with no explanation and the guys in the booth sounded like they had been up all night.
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No one had to badge the Offy.
I turn off the sound and turn on IMS Radio and Timing & Scoring, They do a great job!
It's ABC what do you expect
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Not much but today was a new low.It's ABC what do you expect
Always better to be on ABC than anywhere else.
So we lower our standards and accept what we saw today? The problem isn't that people aim high and miss it's people that aim low and hit. This aiming low attitude is what's stopping this sport from growing again.
You know, there used to be a time when the guys in the booth could tell you who was driving faster and who was driving slower and at what rate people were closing in on each other and when we could expect to see some action as a result.
The thought of expecting Eore and Side By Side to provide that sort of coverage is like expecting a kindergarden student with a speech impediment who still craps there pants and needs a nappy to explain how to split an atom.
In terms of adding excitement and information, where is Jack Arute.. He was a great Indycar Pit Reporter, very knowledgeable. I thought Lindy Thackston "brightened up" coverage on Versus over the last few years, she apparently has been replaced on the NBC Sports Coverage this year, so she might be someone to "help" out ABC's coverage. In the booth I didn't think I'd ever say this years back, but I think Paul Page, who I guess does NHRA these days would be more exciting than Marty Reid. I like NBC Sports Booth with Jenkins, Dallenbach, Beekhuis. Goodyear is ok.. He can be a little bland, I think they need a 3 person booth to make the discussion more lively.. Where is Danny Sullivan these days??? Even having Derek Daly with Goodyear would at least liven up the conversation.
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