These numbers make little sense. If the series is averaging 813,000 viewers through two races and the second race had 218,000 viewers, that means there would have been over 1.4 million viewers for the St. Petersburg race. I'm pretty sure there were far fewer viewers than that.Originally Posted by OWFANatic
I thought I was wrong claiming the number would drop. Huh.... A .18?! It can't get any lower then this. Overnights always drop when the finals come out on network tv, I've said it a million times.
Correct. The final from St. Pete on ABC was a .9, down %25 from last year, same time, same channel.
For this series, not all of 'em. But, yeah, this is getting into infomercial territory. Bad.
No man can cause more grief than that one clinging blindly to the vices of his ancestors. - William Faulker
The overnight was a .18. The final was a .25
You were wrong
Show me where the overnight was a .18
Second, the very first post in this thread from Jenna, says a .25, thats an overnight rating, she posted that on Tuesday, final numbers dont come out on Monday or Tuesday for cable. They come out at the end of the week, in this case, today.
And "IF" the final was infact a .25, a .25 does not equal 218,000 [final] viewers, sorry.
Last edited by FlatOut; 04-09-2012 at 10:58 PM.
Instead of attacking the poster, why not show everyone here a link or two, with numbers showing "these facts that say otherwise".
I'll wait for those. As a matter of fact, I remember, even right here at TF years ago, 2004 or so, showing how weak TV ratings were for both CC and the IRL compared to ratings here in the states.
I do believe that you have that you have that backwards and that YOU are wrong.
Ricky
I do believe that you have that you have that backwards and that YOU are wrong.
Ricky
No your both wrong this comes courtesy of Jenna Fryer
https://twitter.com/#!/JennaFryer/st...41790690738176Ross Bynum @therossbynum
- · Details
Did #IndyCar FINAL ratings for Barber ever get released? @indy44 @stevewittich @JennaFryer @curtcavin
Jenna Fryer @JennaFryer
Follow
@therossbynum @indy44 @stevewittich .25; overnight was .18. Nielsen said 218k homes.
9:19 AM - 9 Apr 12 via Twitter for iPhone · Embed this Tweet
I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has
Been posted on the previous page
Uh, yeah. The overnight was 0.25 and the final was 0.18.
backwardsUh, yeah. The overnight was 0.25 and the final was 0.18.
here is what was posted. I copied and pasted
.25; overnight was .18. Nielsen said 218k homes
Other way around. Final was .25.Uh, yeah. The overnight was 0.25 and the final was 0.18.
Oh, ok! Gotcha! But still, ONE quarter of ONE rating point is, still pretty dreadful.
Ricky
218,000 US viewers vs. 769,400 Brazilian viewers for Barber.
I have no idea how that plays out.
I believe that means the Brazilians are paying for the American fans to watch
Obrigado colegas fãs das corridas
"The series may be hesitant to say it, but the day is here for everybody that loves IndyCar racing to link arms and help each other out. Anybody who doesn’t want to do that needs to find something else to do with their time.”
-- Eddie Gossage, President, Texas Motor Speedway, ICONIC Advisory Committee & TrackForum member
How can it be a .25 final with 218,000 viewers?
See, this is the problem these days... The series doesn't even release anything anymore, they don't speak a word about it and don't release it to outlets, so we have go this silly route.
They can't even spin this or losing %25 of its viewers in the first race. I remember when Angst and the group over there would come out with all these bologna excuses and explanations, "Allthough ratings were down, the demo was up and a bigger jump in the 18-25 year old brack, blah, blah, blah".
They don't even do that anymore, I mean, how could you?
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012...s-nba-on-espn/
St. Petersburg 1,279,000 + Barber 218,000 = Total 1,497,000
Average per race - 748,500. Where the 813,000 number came from is a mystery.
Who would have ever thought that a US-based open-wheel racing circuit that focuses mainly on City Street racing would be 3X more popular in Brazil than in the states?
PP, it wasn't 1,279,000 million viewers, the final rating was a .9
The overnight was 1.3, final .9
Try reading the link I provided before correcting me.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012...s-nba-on-espn/
The season-opening IndyCar Series Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg drew a 0.9 final rating and 1.279 million viewers on ABC March 25,
How they get total viewers from the rating must have changed, or my memory sucks. I think its the ladder.
The article states that last year drew a 1.2 rating, 1.840M viewers - consistent.
When someone goes to the trouble of providing a source for their numbers you need to challenge the source, not the provider.
The Scrubbing Bubbles of Grand Am earned a 0.34 (vs. 0.22 last year).55% up.
That's for a tape delay on Speed.
I guess RR fans are looking elsewhere than IndyCars for their RR fix.
What Happened?
Who's got next?
Speed releases numbers that are specific to their cable channel and are not corrected. Speed is in 80 million homes.
Unless it's major event, most families try to avoid watching tv on a sunday afternoon these days. I think Indycar should try and hold a race on a week night.
Someone should start a poll and see what would be the ideal time for everyone to watch a race on tv.
Mine are saturday / sunday mornings or mon to thursday after 6pm.
So your saying Neilson is lying and skewing numbers now for Speed? I would think you would have more then that. SX is up too...
Any other excuses for GA, SX and Nationwide up as IC falls even farther?
BTW: NBCSports is in 75 million homes, whats your point?
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-ratings-mark/
SPEED scored its highest household rating to date for a Monster Energy Supercross event, as Saturday night’s live event from the Georgia Dome in Atlanta was up 24 percent from a year ago (0.47 vs. 0.38) and averaged 630,000 viewers (peaking at 738,000), according to Nielsen Media Research. Through five races this season, Supercross on SPEED is up 13 percent with households, 31 percent with Men 35-54 and 27 percent with Men 18-49
Apples to oranges... you're compared a number of Viewers (the St. Pete number) to the number of Households (the Barber number) watching. There can be multiple viewers per household (i.e. whole family watches a race together v.s. 1 person watching on his/her own).
You are incorrect. Both cited reports clearly state that those are the number of VIEWERS.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012...s-nba-on-espn/
The season-opening IndyCar Series Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg drew a 0.9 final rating and 1.279 million viewers on ABC March 25
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012...ycar-on-nbcsn/
The IndyCar Series Honda Grand Prix of Alabama drew 218,000 viewers on NBC Sports Network last Sunday.
Last edited by PenelopePitstop; 04-11-2012 at 10:56 AM.
Jenna's tweet above says 218,000 homes...who knows.
They are too low and I am disappointed. However, i will continue to watch all of the races and attend as many as possible and enjoy them.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks