Just pointing out possibilities, that's all. You can add another Brazil race and China if they pay up front.Originally Posted by TexManZero
If we end up with 16 or 17, I am fine with that.
Just pointing out possibilities, that's all. You can add another Brazil race and China if they pay up front.
If we end up with 16 or 17, I am fine with that.
Get your head out of your past!!!
Ditto. I'm still crossing my fingers for CotA and a third Canadian event.
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I'm hearing Pocono is close, as is the 3rd Canadian race which will be Quebec City. Also that a second Brazil race is in the picture, not Porto Alegre but Brasilia.
One other thing I didn't know was that Texas has in their contract that there can be no other races for a series in the state within 90 days of an event at their TMS. Hence why Houston is so far back, and why Austin would need to be super early in the season if it were to happen.
So possible add-ons at this point would be:
Pocono
Michigan
Kentucky
Quebec/3rd Canadian
Brasilia
Austin
Portland
Ft. Lauderdale
Laguna Seca -- I know, haven't heard much, but it's always brought up
If IndyCar keeps all 15 then add Houston, then Pocono and Quebec you're at 18. Brasilia probably has big money behind it so 19 may not be as far as it seems
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All of those would be pretty great additions to the calendar. Brazil has great attendance!
Continuing from my last post (and thinking out loud), let's refresh where we are:
Staying:
St. Pete
Barber
Long Beach
Sao Paulo
Indy
Detroit
Milwaukee
Edmonton
Toronto
Not official but expected to stay:
Iowa
Mid Ohio
Question Marks:
Texas
Baltimore
Sonoma
Fontana
So 11 I believe are surely coming back. I know there's been talk about Edmonton on its way out but I think that will be 2014 when the contract runs out. I can't imagine Texas going away unless Austin is brought in (which I doubt), and I think Mikey will do well with Baltimore and keep it on board.
That gets us 13 for sure. Add Houston there's 14, Pocono & Quebec is 16. Then from there in order of likelihood I'd go Ft. Lauderdale, Portland, Kentucky, Austin, Michigan, Laguna Seca. With all that and the question marks of Fontana and Sonoma I'd say there's a strong chance we have at least 16. I think we'll end up with 17-18, and I won't complain.
That agrees with the rumor I heard that Austin will be the first race of the season on March 17th.
so Texas would host the start, middle and finish of the season
3 Texas races would lend themselves to a "A.J. Foyt Lone Star State Challenge". The highest average finisher in the 3 races gets the prize, it would be cool because it would have a road race, street race, and oval race....just a thought
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I think Baltimore and Andretti Promotions just signed a multiple year contract a week ago right?
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I want to say I heard that now that you said it, but I'm not sure, then again I haven't heard anyone say "There will be a 2013 Baltimore GP"
V8 Supercars are comin to CotA sometime in early 2013. They did say January, but now they don't have a date. This years V8 season opener was the first weekend in March. So we could do the season opener at CotA double header with V8 Supercars, Ft. Lauderdale, move Barber in front of St. Pete, move up St. Pete 1 week. That will give us only 1 week break (which will give some time between Ft. Lauderdale and St. Pete) and it gives the V8s 2 weeks to get back to OZ for their season opener. We also start before NASCAR so we can get a head start on them.
Feb 19 CotA
Feb 26 Ft. Lauderdale
Mar 4 Barber
Mar 11 Week Off
Mar 18 St. Pete
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OUTSTANDING IDEA!!!!! I sure hope RB reads your post.
First, you might want to shell out a couple dollars for a new calendar. Like maybe one for 2013? Because you have the Austin and Fort Lauderdale races on a Tuesday, and Barber and St. Pete on Monday. Pretty sure that wasn't what you meant.
Second, if you're scheduling the Fort Lauderdale race the last Sunday in February, you do realize that's the same day as the Daytona 500 don't you?
Third, why move Barber up a month? One of the knocks on the series has been the lack of consistent dates; Barber has had success on the first weekend in April. It's a foothold in tintop country; why mess with a successful event?
While it would certainly be great to run with the V8 Supercars, I don't think we should make ourselves a de facto support series to do so.
Per Robin Miller three big ovals still in the game
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...eekend-review/Understand Michigan, Pocono and Kentucky are all still talking about an IndyCar race in 2013 and Texas is looking like it will return so there could be as many as eight ovals on the schedule.
St. Pete is announced as taking place on March 24th, so it is not going to be moving.
Yeah, there is just this 2 week gap in my schedule that I don't like.
Maybe this?
Feb 10 Ft. Lauderdale
Feb 17 (Travel to Brazil)
Feb 23 Brasilia (Saturday before Daytona)
Mar 3 (Travel back from Brazil)
Mar 10 CotA (With ALMS week before Sebring)
Mar 17 Off
Mar 24 St. Pete
I do think this may start a little early and I don't think ALMS could handle a race the week before Sebring. I'll sleep on it.
Fort Lauderdale isn't going to happen.
Also I'm sure Indycar is trying to get both Brazillian races back to back
I know there's all these rumors about Brasila made me think about Autódromo Internacional Nelson Piquet but after looking over recent track day videos on YouTube I'd bet it would have to be a street race. PK track looks like its about $1 million way in renovations away from hosting an Indycar race. The armco is too close to the track in a lot of places, the runoffs are dirt, the walls look low enough an Indycar could jump it. I'm by no means an expert on race track construction but it doesn't meet FIA standards, that much I know.
Yeah, that track isn't what it used to be. They tore up part of it to build an Olympic training facility, and the rest looks like it's aged about as well as Nazareth has.
You're thinking the Rio Nelson Piquet. Autodromo Nelson Piquet in BRASILIA is still there, but looks like a track that hasn't hosted a major race in years. Granted that's just from the satellite view but it looks like it could use a little spiffing up before an international race.
Based on the current data, if all the negotiations come to fruition and no surprises here's a schedule I hope we see. Other than Houston I don't see any street courses getting on the schedule next year unless some big sponsors come forward. If anything were to happen with Ft. Lauderdale their city council would be talking about it by now. Only Quebec could have been in the pike long enough, but after almost losing Baltimore and losing China I think Randy is a bit gun shy of new street races.
March 3 Grand Prix of Texas, Circuit of the Americas
March 24 Honda Grand Prix of St. Petersburg
March 31 Honda Grand Prix of Alabama, Barber Motorsport Park
April 14 Itaipava Sao Paulo Indy 300
April 21 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach
May 26 Indy 500, Indianapolis Motor Speedway
June 2 Chevrolet Grand Prix of Belle Isle
June 8 Firestone 550k Texas Motor Speedway
June 16 Indyfest @ The Milwaukee Mile
June 22 Iowa Corn 250 Iowa Motor Speedway
July 7 Honda Grand Prix of Toronto
July 14 Michigan 500, Michigan International Speedway
July 21 Grand Prix of Edmonton
August 4 Honda Grand Prix of Ohio, Mid-Ohio
August 18 Go-Pro Indy Grand Prix of Sonoma
Sept. 1 Grand Prix of Baltimore
Sept. 15 Pocono Indy 500, Pocono Speedway
Oct. 6 Shell Grand Prix of Houston
Oct. 12 California 500, Autoclub Speedway
Still waiting on an answer as to when that big Las Vegas "down the Strip" race is gonna happen.
it's a great schedule
With the exceptions of the huge gaps in dates in the end of the year, this is a fantastic schedule. Which means it will never happen.
I'm going to stay positive and say it's definitely going to happen. And I agree, it's a great schedule except for the glaring omission of Phoenix. Sure hope they find a good date for that race in 2014.
Yeah, Phoenix would be a wonderful addition to the schedule. And don't get me wrong I love that schedule. I just don't see it working out in the current climate.
I know where you are coming from. Let's hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.
I like the races but I don't see all those dates matching up.
I hope there would be some way to fill the three week gap between Austin and St. Pete, would they move Sao Paulo up?
I'd personally put the two Canadian races back to back. Then MIS then Mid Ohio.
If Fontana comes back, and that may be a big if, I hope its the finale, JMO but you can't finish the season on a street course, especially one that has little passing.
They can't move up because Carnival falls before lent starts, and in 2013 Lent starts Feb. 13.... so six weeks to take down Carnival and put up the street race? I don't think that would go over all that well. I put it that far out because if it's a double header with ALMS it either needs to be after or before Seabring, and March 3 would be two weeks before Seabring. You can't move Barber that much because of cold weather and Barber wants the park to be in full bloom and beautiful for the race.
Since the Canadian races are both street races I'm not sure how easy it would be to move them.
I think California will be back because the league wants to schedule to be out by Labor Day, and so California might have to commit to 2013 before they host the 2012 race
Yea I agree, any real reason why you moved SP ahead of Long Beach then?
And regarding Edmonton, that part of the airport is shut down now IIRC, so I think moving the race up one week wouldn't be too hard. Teams may need to bring extra carbon fiber, but I think the organizers wouldn't have too much a problem
Long Beach has moved back a week and unless they get a race to fill that gap Long Beach-Sao Paulo-Indy could be a strain on the team
To all of those who are wondering how we get to 19 races, please recall that the series currently has a contract that the series took a year off from. It would have a lot of scars, but next year would be year 3 of 3 for Las Vegas Motor Speedway...
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