Ernest I appreciate your views... But Gimmicks don't work in racing !!
Ernest I appreciate your views... But Gimmicks don't work in racing !!
Qualifying is an advantage for the good teams. As it should be.
Absolutely not. Part of racing is qualifying, always has been. Again, it's not about being equal or fair. Does it suck for a driver like Seabass who is stuck driving for an underfunded team/engine manufacturer? I would say yea. But I'm pretty sure he realized that before he signed a contract. Accountability is a part of racing. This drive to make everything equal and fair is ruining sports, period.Originally Posted by Ernest Miller
Didn't people complain about the random draws at Texas last year?
Also, racing shouldn't try to be like other sports or use formats like other sports. Didn't NASCAR try that with the "chase for the cup" like a payoffs thing? Yeah that actually doesn't look too well because the chase started to become contrived (in other words, a team combo that does well and goes into the chase leading but losing the entire championship because of bad luck because the final races were weighted SOOOOO HEAVILY).
Racing should be as least contrived as possible. No random draws, no bunching up the field for the sake of "competition", no format that forces front runners in the back of the grid just because we want to see "more competition". This is the #1 complaint racing fans have when watching something like BTCC or WTCC because the reverse grid is pretty contrived already in itself.
I agree 100%. Racing is not communism =P A racing series like IndyCar or F1 shouldn't be about "fair". It should be about who develops the best machinery and driver combo and that's that. Is Penske constantly winning boring? Yeah sure, but, as a racing fan, I have to be in awe at the driving and engineering skill of the Penske guys. The teams should be given an even playing field in which they all are giving equal testing and qualifying times. But that should end there.
After all, winning a contrived championship isn't as rewarding as fully knowing that you've smashed the competition through ingenuity, determination, and grit. Alonso winning the Malaysian Grand Prix proves this
If you really want to watch a series that tries to equal the playing field through mechanical or contrived rules, just watch any spec series like NASCAR or Formula 2. Not everything in racing should be spec or as equal as possible like F2 or NASCAR.
People seem to love the NFL more than ever and that's the most socialist of all the sports.
Popular doesn't mean better.
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I'm old enough not to care too much about what you think of me.
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Thank you. Popularity is not necessarily a measure of quality. Correlation does not prove causation
"socialist" formats might work for NFL. It wont for racing. Why do you think people constantly complain about IndyCar being "too spec for a top tier series"? Do you think F1 or WTCC would be better if we just gave them all the same chassis and swapped teams ever race?
You're trying to make the impossible comparison of a stick and ball sport versus racing. It's like trying to divide by zero.
And the NFL isn't racing.
Just a quick question to all you Americans. Soccer (football) is the most popular sport in the world... Millions of fans everywhere (except the US) do you guys care? If you want to equate a sport's quality with it's popularity than Soccer is the best sport in the world above NFL
So should the NFL copy football?
And in soccer whoever has the most money gets the best players and wins the most games. Except in the World cup....Just a quick question to all you Americans. Soccer (football) is the most popular sport in the world... Millions of fans everywhere (except the US) do you guys care? If you want to equate a sport's quality with it's popularity than Soccer is the best sport in the world above NFL
So should the NFL copy football?
If its all about Fairness, Maybe next we can make sure every driver wins a race eventually.
Perhaps just schedule races only on tracks wide enough to permit all the cars to start the race at exactly the same moment.
Fairness Shmairness.
Faster than a bullet from a gun
He is faster than everyone
Quicker than the blinking of an eye
Like a flash you could miss him going by
No one knows quite how he does it but it's true they say
He's the master of going faster. -George Harrison
Perhaps, but this is one idea that should be put back in the box it came in. Makes no sense whatsoever.
The drivers don't wear a cup.
That's one of the things.
All the best,
Spike
"The IRL's future should be good, but it can't be the grass-roots series Tony George envisioned. That was a wet dream." - Bobby Unser
Never said I believed Soccer is the best sport in the world. But using by some of the logic in here... it's the most popular so it has to be the best if it's popular right?
The top sponsors who pay the big bucks to get their brand names on the best teams/front-running cars - and thus the most TV time possible - won't go for this.
Therefore, it won't happen.
When asked which race he considered to be the most important to win, Enzo Ferrari would always answer; "The NEXT one."
Not worthy of 'h'
Racing is a meritocracy. The best team wins. It's life. It's perfect
"I think there's only so many people that can take care of themselves, and can take care of other people. And the rest of the people … they're useful in terms of compost for the whole planet, you know." - Bill Murray
The teams DO have an equal chance to start up front and show what they can do. Nothing is stopping them from busting their asses and securing big-time sponsorship and challenging Penske and Ganassi and Andretti. This isn't racing camp. It's not important that we give everybody a hug and a pat on the head and chance to start up front.
RIP Daniel Clive Wheldon, 2005 & 2011 Indianapolis 500 Champion
The latter.
The teams in the back half of the field do have he opportunity to run up front. They can do it by GOING FASTER.
Geez, people try to make this way more complicated than it needs to be. It's racing, not the quest to cure cancer.
Is Ernest secretly Bernie Eccelestone?
Nah, just a guy who likes to get a rise out of people. Such is life.
So... Bernie Eccelestone...
Nah, Bernie's a billionaire.So... Bernie Eccelestone...
Exactly right.
And don't the worst teams in the NFL each year get home field advantage for half of their games? Ernest
Yes, and their players also wear big shoulder pads and shoes with cleats.
Spike.
Quit comparing stick and ball sports to racing!!! It doesn't work.
So... how does Racing compare with Archery?
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