Wow! No reason to attend qualifying now.
Can't imagine what this is going to do to practice laps.
Might as well have two one hour practice sessions...
Wow! No reason to attend qualifying now.
Can't imagine what this is going to do to practice laps.
Might as well have two one hour practice sessions...
Ain't engine competition grand?
If it is so bad, then why even follow the sport anymore?Originally Posted by crispy
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Does anyone attend Pole Day to see who will qualify 33rd?
This entry list is a major downer to me too, but the pole battle will still be entertaining and I'd think teams would be practicing the new cars quite a bit in race trim if nothing else. There won't be much urgency to get in the top 24 on pole day though. It's certainly not worth cracking up a car when traveling 10 miles is likely all it will take to get in the race on Fill, I mean Bump Day.
Another brilliant move Randy
Nice way to hurt the only race that matters on your entire schedule..
what is he supposed to do? If theres only so many owners ,, thats just how it is,,,,Another brilliant move Randy
Nice way to hurt the only race that matters on your entire schedule..
I love the sport more than I hate the past,
Really.Another brilliant move Randy
Nice way to hurt the only race that matters on your entire schedule..
Any engine lease agreement should have come with the requirement that any team could run as many cars as they wanted at Indianapolis and they HAD to supply the engines. If 40 cars run, and some of the big boys are to slow, tough, like in 1995.
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It is not the car owners fault.. The engine companies will not supply additional entries even if the teams have the funding.. That is my gripe.. If I won the mega millions a couple weeks ago and wanted to enter a car I would not be able to because I could not get an engine.. That is BS..
Exactly
I love the sport more than I hate the past,, but before that past I hate I sure miss the one with 90 entrants, four motors, the buicks,, mymy . Im becoming a " bring back the roadsters" fan.. I hear ya chris,,
If we don't get any more cars.. What would the point of Bump Day be this year? We had 3 pretty damn good Bump Days in a row too..
Ohh, but that's the thing.
There are other owners out there that would like to play golf in the country club. Mike Shank, Eric Bachelart, Greg Beck all have chassis (or at least did). I bet there are a few others that could/would get involved if it wasn't such a stick in your eye to try and compete.
Here is the thing...if Mike Shank had the money (which I am guessing, he would for the Indy 500 considering there are drivers walking around RIGHT NOW with funding for Indy) he'd be at Indy in the #60 car. What's the problem? Our brilliant engine manufacturers have capped the field and don't want to service any other teams. Which means if you aren't a full-time team, you are screwed. We don't want any one-off teams or new teams effing up "our" factory supported teams.
All this does is keep the status quo going and keep any new potential Penske's or Ganassi's from getting involved. Which also keeps Penske (Chevy) and Ganassi (Honda) very happy and healthy. And the hell with everyone else.
34 cars for 33 spots. Fill Day will be a rager this year. Of course, one of these years we may just lose a couple of cars before they can actually qualify (with crashes and blown engines at the wrong time). That will be neat, won't it?
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Do you know why that is?
What is the trade-off there?
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And not to be they typical Debbie Downer Doomsday Douchebag... but I have a feeling that this is the year that happens.
Because we have new engines and engine partners.. I would rather have a large field of entries for the Indy 500 then engine competition..
I don't buy tickets to root for engines.. Same goes for tires.. etc
Bingo!!
...and I'll bet you don't tape the races just to fast-forward to the ads, either.
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+1
Cancer sucks.
I'll give Indycar a pass this year. Obviously it is not an ideal situation, but I understand it. 6 months or so ago people were worried that 33 cars may not show up for qualifying. Hell Cavin wrote an article about a month ago. So while I wish there were 40 cars and a better driver lineup, I'm just happy there will be 33 cars starting the race.
Next year though, no excuses. However, if Lotus does leave, I'm assuming engine leases between Honda and Chevy will go up and the field may not get much bigger next year anyhow.
sure does kill the "cinderella" story that most hoosiers were raised with... regarding basketball and bump day... so now that the class system has killed basketball what's the big deal if the lack of engines kills indy? face it folks nobody gives a dammmmit any longer about tradition or such. it's all about the mighty $$$$. this is a farce and everyone knows it no matter how much sugar is poured on it, it sucks bad!!!
the reason i used to go to indy was for the speed, daring, and excitement on the track first and the party second.. now, it's more to see friends and family, moreso a reunion around an event; than an event providing for a reunion. next year i may just go and stay outside the grounds... bummed i am
returning to the days of ignorant bliss..
Until the ICS becomes popular again, if ever, the engine manufacturers are holding all the cards, they got em all so they call the shots. You betcha.
I don't know much about Indiana Basketball but the class system was a permanent change correct? This is 1 year after 3 solid bump days that you guys are throwing tantrums over. As has been pointed out by several people (posters and writers) you most likely will see more cars next year and the year after once we have more engines and chassis's laying around.sure does kill the "cinderella" story that most hoosiers were raised with... regarding basketball and bump day... so now that the class system has killed basketball what's the big deal if the lack of engines kills indy? face it folks nobody gives a dammmmit any longer about tradition or such. it's all about the mighty $$$$. this is a farce and everyone knows it no matter how much sugar is poured on it, it sucks bad!!!
the reason i used to go to indy was for the speed, daring, and excitement on the track first and the party second.. now, it's more to see friends and family, moreso a reunion around an event; than an event providing for a reunion. next year i may just go and stay outside the grounds... bummed i am
I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has
At least he posted it here in the proper forum where much of his stuff belongs.
...the reason i used to go to indy was for the speed, daring, and excitement on the track first and the party second.. now, it's more to see friends and family, moreso a reunion around an event; than an event providing for a reunion. next year i may just go and stay outside the grounds... bummed i am
I agree except for the one point I emphasized. After driving 2000+ miles I would never go to that extreme - which is why I'm going to evaluate whether or not to renew my tickets after the Race this year. After 60 years of attending, pulling the plug won't be easy, but it's something I've been contemplating for a while.
I pulled the plug after the 2008 race.
I agree except for the one point I emphasized. After driving 2000+ miles I would never go to that extreme - which is why I'm going to evaluate whether or not to renew my tickets after the Race this year. After 60 years of attending, pulling the plug won't be easy, but it's something I've been contemplating for a while.
Sat home for the 2009 race, which I did not miss anything since that race was a snoozefest.. Came back only because I missed seeing friends and the party.
This field of drivers really does not interest me at all. Seeing Bryan Clauson getting a ride does perk my interest.
And you didn't renew your prime seats in the NW Vista as a result. Not very smart.
Did you invite yourself back? Who among your Indy 500 friends wants to hear your negative rants when they're trying to enjoy the Race Weekend?
We get it and respect your right to express your opinion.
So there is no need to continue to repeat it.
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Is that a question.
You should definitely stay home then.
Why waste your time and money on something that doesn't interest you at all???
It would be like me spending a bunch of money to follow Lady Gaga on tour.
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Ha, "throwing tantrums." A nice twist on the "whining" done by people who we disagree with. Of course, that's contrasted by the completely calm and mature dissent when you don't like things. Right?
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