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  1. 04-24-2012 02:42 PM #1
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    Brad Keselowski puts on the clown shoes

    And is getting called out on it.

    See Brad, there are significantly fewer F1 rides (24) than Cup rides (43+) available. Two, neither can make a definitive claim since, as Jenna Fryer pointed out, they're two totally different animals. Most (though not all) US racers grow up on the stock car ladder and formula. Most European/Int'l drivers grow up on the formula car ladder and formula. They just never meet in neutral circumstances to show who is "best."

    Further, why would a top NASCAR guy seriously try F1? It makes no business sense. NASCAR guys do quite well financially thank you very much. Setting aside skill sets, that alone is a huge reason why you'll never see crossover. And, in fairness, the F1 teams, out of arrogance and the whole "skill set" thing, would never seriously consider an American Cup driver. That does NOT, however, mean Cup guys are superior to F1 driverd.
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  2. 04-24-2012 03:04 PM #2
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    He's cemented his reputation as an idiot.
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    Not quite sure this particular tweet came out as intended...

    Brad Keselowski ‏ @keselowski
    Elite qbs don't quit super bowl winning teams & elite championship NASCAR drivers don't go to F1 for a reason They compete against the best
    LOL!!!
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    That's some breathtaking ignorance!
    Feeling like John Galt in a world of James Taggarts
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    How's Juan done in Cup...
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  6. 04-24-2012 04:17 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    How's Juan done in Cup...
    How has..... Oh that's right no cab driver has every done F1.
    I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has
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  7. 04-24-2012 04:24 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    How's Juan done in Cup...
    Or Jacques..
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  8. 04-24-2012 04:31 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Paff View Post
    Or Jacques..
    Sorry Jacques got a few races compared to Juan. Not a real good comparison. With that being said there's little to compare other than Juan. No cup boys have tried it and probably won't be allowed to due to European Snobbery more than talent. Just because Juan has essentially failed doesn't mean another top tier F1 driver with a better demeanor can't come over and do it.
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  9. 04-24-2012 04:45 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    How's Juan done in Cup...
    Pretty good I would say for a guy whose only goal is to collect a paycheck and get fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyZ1 View Post
    How has..... Oh that's right no cab driver has every done F1.
    The guy who won the Daytona 500 in 1967 might be able to educate you a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyrox@lith View Post
    Pretty good I would say for a guy whose only goal is to collect a paycheck and get fat.
    Darn good retirement plan after running out of options & no longer being wanted in F1.

    He's even won a race on one of the two most difficult tracks they race on... not bad.
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  12. 04-24-2012 04:55 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Paff View Post
    Or Jacques..
    Ability - or lack thereof - has absolutely nothing to do with why JV isn't in a Cup car.

    All JV needs is a check & he could have any one of 15 or more rides in the series.... then we'd see how he could do.
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  13. 04-24-2012 04:55 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyZ1 View Post
    How has..... Oh that's right no cab driver has every done F1.
    Maybe you meant taxi cab drivers?

    One of those guys comes to mind, also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenelopePitstop View Post
    The guy who won the Daytona 500 in 1967 might be able to educate you a bit.
    Valid point but he raced very part-time. Ask fans how they remember Andretti and you'd here OW or F1 driver (mostly OW here in the states)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenelopePitstop View Post
    Maybe you meant taxi cab drivers?

    One of those guys comes to mind, also.
    bitter a little?
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    Keselowski may not be a total moron but he fakes it pretty well.
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  17. 04-24-2012 07:47 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyZ1 View Post
    bitter a little?
    No, just wanted to clarify. You said "no cab driver has every done F1."

    Danny Sullivan has driven taxi cabs and F-1 cars professionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenelopePitstop View Post
    No, just wanted to clarify. You said "no cab driver has every done F1."

    Danny Sullivan has driven taxi cabs and F-1 cars professionally.
    Benny Parsons was a cabbie too IIRC

    Brad K seems like a good egg but thats an idiotic Tweet

    Why would an F1 team waste time with someone with no rear engine experience and almost no R/C experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ View Post
    Why would an F1 team waste time with someone with no rear engine experience and almost no R/C experience?
    Yeah, makes you wonder why C. Chapman bothered with Mario, doesn't it? Why he introduced cockpit-adjustable suspension to F1 based on Mario's input?

    But it is correct that auto engineering has progressed in Europe and stagnated in the USA since the '70s. One doubts driving a Dallara prepares one for F1 for sure. Think a Penske F1 machine could make 107%? Brad does know something about fuel injection but is supposed to keep quiet about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenelopePitstop View Post
    The guy who won the Daytona 500 in 1967 might be able to educate you a bit.
    Why because he backed into a WDC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoparsRule View Post
    Ability - or lack thereof - has absolutely nothing to do with why JV isn't in a Cup car.

    All JV needs is a check & he could have any one of 15 or more rides in the series.... then we'd see how he could do.
    He's to busy making kick ass music!
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    Frankly I think F1 guys would eventually assimilate into NASCAR after a few years - much like Monty. However I do not think ANY tin top driver would make it through the mental pressure and political games that go on at teams and between team mates in F1. Hell Andretti would not get through a season because of that crap these days.

    Strictly on driving, though (in F1), I thought Gordon's times on the IMS road circuit in a BMW were pretty impressive - granted Monty's were far better in the tin top but it was exclusively on the road course only. Gordon did want to run in F1 and actually had an open offer from either Stewart (Ford) or Jags who bought that group out, I cannot recall which one exactly.

    None the less Chevy stuffed that altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    Yeah, makes you wonder why C. Chapman bothered with Mario, doesn't it? Why he introduced cockpit-adjustable suspension to F1 based on Mario's input?
    I know nothing about that match up but Im gonna guess Mario had R/C and rear engine experience already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
    He's to busy making kick ass music!

    Good point! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevMcNJ View Post
    I know nothing about that match up but Im gonna guess Mario had R/C and rear engine experience already
    Very little if any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    Very little if any.
    Disagree. Mario was driving rear-engined cars in USAC from 1965 onwards (his first F1 start was Watkins Glen 1968), and was nearly always up front on the road course rounds in USAC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    How's Juan done in Cup...
    Two wins and one jet dryer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctorindy View Post
    Two wins and one jet dryer.
    Excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdolan View Post
    How's Juan done in Cup...
    He has made as many Chases as BK, that would be one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyZ1 View Post
    Valid point but he raced very part-time. Ask fans how they remember Andretti and you'd here OW or F1 driver (mostly OW here in the states)
    "slowing on the backstretch". I remember it well.
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