Same here.Originally Posted by irlracingfan
Same here.
Gregg Sebald
We can't draw anything when the NFL is in full offseason mode, why do you think that running during the season will work? When IndyCar draws even a fifth of what NASCAR draws in ratings and attendance, I'll start listening to your argument.
Right, and I didn't have a problem when I parked at the farm across the street.
But many thousands did park at the track, which means that traffic was still a problem for many thousands.
Cancer sucks.
Traffic is usually a problem when leaving an event.
I don't know about the situation at Kentucky, but it depends on the planing of the event. Texas Motor Speedway used to be hell trying to get out onto I-35, but they've solved some of the problems. During the World Series, I was able to get out and back home in fifteen minutes. It's really all on the design.
I loved his quote "we had some financial issues related to that race..." What an azz. Jerking the race from a Sat. night in August to Labor Day weekend, then to an NFL Sunday in October...that MIGHT have been the problem there, bud. It was a well attended race until you screwed with the date. Chase that NASCAR $$!!! I hope you have another parking nightmare for all I care...I will never go back there for anything other than IndyCar again. And better yet, when you do repave, be sure to add in variable banking for the Cup cars, wheee!!!
"We named the dog Indiana"
Honest question, Matt. Do you think the Speedway folks wanted a date change? Or do you think this was a series decision?
Bryan Brothers Racing Team: We'll see you "at the track"!!!
Both, IMO. IndyCar spent the last 10 years cannibalizing good oval dates for street/road courses....and Kentucky wanted cup..
Kentucky wanted to yank our date, IndyCar thought it wouldn't affect them....dumb and dumber
"I think there's only so many people that can take care of themselves, and can take care of other people. And the rest of the people … they're useful in terms of compost for the whole planet, you know." - Bill Murray
If I remember correctly they moved it from mid August to Labor Day weekend so that Mid-Ohio could have the mid August date and then moved it again to October so that Baltimore could have the Labor Day weekend. I blame ICS as much as anyone.
There should be two races on Holidays... Indy Memorial Day Sunday, and the 600 that evening. July 4th is about parades, cookouts and fireworks and my family has helped run the parade in my town for over 30 years of the 50+ years it has been held. To be honest, the Baltimore race makes sense for Baltimore City on Labor day, but dang did it screw up my traditional last weekend of the summer at the beach. It's just not anywhere near the same the following week, and the previous weekend just isn't the last weekend of summer. I watched the Southern 500 for years,,,but that tradition was ruined and I was usually watching the TV on my boat. Indycar of all groups should understand tradition and how valuable maintaining a traditional date and race weekend is to an event.
The problem with saying the season needs to end before the NFL starts is, that now basically means the second week of August. I agree head to head on Saturdays or sundays with College and NFL football is just a no win for TV ratings. Even if we mean the REGULAR season, just finding locations for the races themselves that don't have to battle college or the NFL is hard enough, but finding airtime AND eyeballs to watch the races is potentially an even bigger challenge, and the way the NFL schedules rotate, you have no idea when you may be facing a sunday line up of epic games on TV. Our local pre-game show more than quadruples a local Indycar rating.
were there ever enough fans for the Kentucky Indycar race to even cause a backup?
It can be. In general Getting out of Dover after a cup race used to be a nightmare no matter where you parked until they figured out that if they turned the tolls off a mile up the road getting onto Del. rt 1 for an hour or so after the race, it was a piece of cake to clear that place out. Well that and about 40K less fans showing up for the cup races.
I'm just making sure you realize the rest of the country doesn't feel the same as Texas does about football. IndyCar fans are going to watch IndyCar no matter the time of year it is. The problem is that you're not listening to that argument. The ratings are stagnant throughout the year and the attendance is stagnant throughout the year, so clearly we're not affected by football.
As a personal opinion, I don't give a rat's ass about the NFL.
I am a fan of the IZOD IndyCar Series, Formula 1, and AMA Supercross in that respective order.
You make it sound like I live in a bubble; I take that as an insult.
IndyCar fans? What, less than a million of us? Yeah, that's really going to carry us over. If we want some sort of viewership, we can't go head to head with the NFL. Hell, we can't go against college football either. The first part of September should be the very last part of the IndyCar season. We don't draw during other parts of the year, but we sure as hell don't draw unless a driver dies.
But you do give a rat's ass about college football. I'm sure you'd miss an Aggie game against Louisiana State to watch an IndyCar race though...
Is that a serious question?
The early KY IndyCar races were VERY well attended, and I was among many of those crowds.
Depending on where you were parked made a big difference even in the last few races when attendance started falling off. I remember waiting almost three hours after the race in 2010 to get out of the lot because the traffic was so snarled up. This last race we breezed right out.
Not what I intended at all. Apologies if you took it that way.
The NFL generally broadcasts its games on Sunday. Why not race on Friday or Saturday? I mean sure, you can say college football on Saturday, but why not Friday? It's a unique night to race that could generate attention. I still completely disagree, because fans of their sport are going to watch it regardless of what else is on. NASCAR, Golf, etc. IMO, our network races, sans Indy, should all be at that point in the season to actually draw in people.
I'd miss even the (now defunct) Thanksgiving Day 't.u.' game for an IndyCar race.
We were caught in traffic for 2 hours after the 2010 Indycar race. Last year I ran to my car right after Ed crossed the finish line and I think I was the 3rd person out of the parking lot.
numetalbizkit, the more I read over it the more I realize that I took that out of context; you don't owe the apology. We're going to have to just disagree on the subject.
I disagree with that latter. The college football audience is very regional. There are places where it could work. Heck, with the way major college football scheduling works these days, you could do an Indycar race at Barber on a Saturday in September and it would probably work -- the competition is Alabama beating the crap out of some Division II school. It's on PPV for $25, and only the most rabid fans watch, and those people aren't going to go to an Indycar race anyway.
So it would be ok to schedule all the races against A&M games every Saturday?
I don't know about the REST of the country, but a whole heck of a lot DOES!!
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