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    I think Shank is out of the picture. Seems like the only remaining alternative other than ECR is some kind of Dragon/NHR partnership with Lotus for Howard.
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    Panther has also been trying to do a deal to run Buddy Rice, so ECR isn't the only Chevy seat potentially available.
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    i cant believe that they are going to Indianapolis with only 33 cars

    there is no guarantee that someone like Katherine Legge even has the nerve to do it not even mentioning if they crash one beyond repair

    33 isnt enough if they want a full field surely they know this
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    Quote Originally Posted by JStand View Post
    Using the hairpin as a reference, 12 regulars plus the 2 Andretti cars, who is the 15th?

    does that 12 regulars include adding DRR though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnome View Post
    does that 12 regulars include adding DRR though?
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by millrace View Post
    There has to be something saying that they (ICS) have to fill the field regardless of what the engine contract states. If they need to squeeze more from Lotus, they should give them help or do whatever is necessary to get enough engines. I mean we are talking about the Indy 500 not having enough engines available to run a full field. That is so ridiculous. They need to sit down and solve this.
    And who's gonna pay for the extra engines beyond what had been agreed to per the contract? You do realize that the manufacturers are taking a loss on each engine, right? The reason why we can even have new/multiple engines is because the cost was lowered for everyone, and for the engines this was done at the sacrifice of the manufacturers' ability to break even. The manufacturers are funding the engine program as part of their marketing campaign--they're not making any money on this.

    As for me, I'm just thankful that after through the years of the split and dwindling commercial interest in both series, that some commercial heavy hitters are willing to throw their money at our sport again. Leave it to the "fans" to possible all our that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1978 View Post
    GM's Jim Campbell: "Based on our current plan, Chevrolet projects that we will have 15 entries for the Indianapolis 500. At this time, we do not have the capacity to accommodate another team. from Jenna Fryer
    just to point out, he did say "current plan" and we all know plans can change. he also said not "another team" - which may or may not mean another car. i'll wait and see. hopefully he means no more than 15 engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttturner68 View Post
    Jay Howard at Carpenter, week 2
    wasn't there a rumor of jay's money being jim beam? would they run two liquor cars that somewhat compete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somberlain56 View Post
    Where's the car going to come from? I remember hearing on Trackside that ECR only has 2 chassis and was hesitant about running both in the race. Would they possibly lease from another team or form a partnership? Shank/ECR possibly (WILD GUESS)?
    well there was a car that nhr was going to use for alesi, not sure who owns that one.

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    I think I know where it's going...but I can't tell
    well if you are working the livery, we can likely narrow it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slompappy View Post
    i cant believe that they are going to Indianapolis with only 33 cars

    there is no guarantee that someone like Katherine Legge even has the nerve to do it not even mentioning if they crash one beyond repair

    33 isnt enough if they want a full field surely they know this
    even if you are correct, there are plenty of drivers willling to take her seat at dragon and they have 4 cars. scheck posted lotusyouhavemynumber a while back. he'd step in if kat is out, but i suspect as others that she will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slompappy View Post
    i cant believe that they are going to Indianapolis with only 33 cars

    there is no guarantee that someone like Katherine Legge even has the nerve to do it not even mentioning if they crash one beyond repair

    33 isnt enough if they want a full field surely they know this

    It's probably not as scary when you are only turning laps as fast as they did in the 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStand View Post
    The 12 includes DRR, could be Herta I suppose, but I assumed they were Honda.
    Where was it announced that DRR is going with Chevy? Or is this just a rumour?

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    So T cars won't have engines? If they did, teams could but that car in the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ndcrs View Post
    well if you are working the livery, we can likely narrow it down.
    i didnt say that...

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    In my opinion, the lack of engines is mainly a responsibility of a manufacturer...the three manufacturers were engaged to provide a maximum of 14 cars each...unfortunately there are those who are able to respect the deal (or more, like Chevrolet, that will provide engines for 15 cars), and who is not...

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    Jenna Fryer ‏ @JennaFryer Honda has 14 official. That doesn't count the assumed BHA. Lotus has 3. Campbell says 15, Honda is assumed 15. Guess what that equals?


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    Quote Originally Posted by WillMazeo View Post
    That's good
    Jenna Fryer ‏ @JennaFryer Honda has 14 official. That doesn't count the assumed BHA. Lotus has 3. Campbell says 15, Honda is assumed 15. Guess what that equals?
    Have to consider the possibility that both D&R and BHA go Chevy and that's how they get to 15.

    Now where that happening doesn't make sense is when you look at going beyond Indy because that would mean 13 Chevy cars and only 10 Honda's (11 if RLR's 2nd car goes full-time). It seems like there's some sort of gentleman's agreement between Chevy and Honda to keep their car counts close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder-Tank View Post
    So T cars won't have engines? If they did, teams could but that car in the field.
    sure doesn't sound like it

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    ECR has enough parties interested to fund Rice but I don't know if they have enough time to get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder-Tank View Post
    So T cars won't have engines? If they did, teams could but that car in the field.


    What's weird to me is that no one on this board seems to know the real answer to this question....and as everyone knows this board knows everything

    If the answer is yes im guessing will fill the field easily but there have been conflicting reports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since83 View Post
    Isn't/Wasn't the problem really just accepting a fly-by-night manufacturer (Lotus)? If the third manufacturer would have been Ford, Toyota, VW, Chrysler, etc. wouldn't this have all worked out fairly well. I doubt any of the companies I mentioned would have had an engine performing at Lotus levels.
    ... and tell me again; Which one of these companies - or any other, for that matter - offered to build engines, and were subsequently turned down by INDYCAR???
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    Quote Originally Posted by slompappy View Post
    What's weird to me is that no one on this board seems to know the real answer to this question....and as everyone knows this board knows everything

    If the answer is yes im guessing will fill the field easily but there have been conflicting reports
    Seriously? We haven't seen a backup car, that was ready at the same time as the primary, in years.

    We've had backups prepared for somebody else when engines were plentiful, but that's NOTGONNAHAPPEN again for a long time.
    Ain't engine competition grand?

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    I think it's no surprise why Shank wasn't taking a Lotus. It looks like he could have very well been 34 and with no track time on the car, they would have struggled.
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    Leave it to the "fans" to possible all our that.
    ....huh?
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