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    I don't see why HVM would turn down $500-750k.

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    Jean just tweeted that he'll be flying to to Indy on Sunday to prepare for Rookie Day. He obviously has something together, that would be a long ass flight for nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by fla224 View Post
    I don't see why HVM would turn down $500-750k.
    I always wonder who gets the prize money with these deals, the driver or the team? Is last place something like $250,000? Is that money already accounted for in his $500-750k budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron5572 View Post
    Jean just tweeted that he'll be flying to to Indy on Sunday to prepare for Rookie Day. He obviously has something together, that would be a long ass flight for nothing
    he could just be coming to watch
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron5572 View Post
    Jean just tweeted that he'll be flying to to Indy on Sunday to prepare for Rookie Day. He obviously has something together, that would be a long ass flight for nothing
    How he did get his tickets that fast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racing Steward View Post
    How he did get his tickets that fast?
    He's a spokesman for Lotus. I imagine it wouldn't be difficult for them to set him up with tickets in their suite (I have to think each engine supplier has a suite rented out for the 500).
    Some fans claim one series or another runs "real race cars." What's everybody else running, fake race cars? :confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by saidhead View Post
    Really? He actually ran in CART up until 1998 for Payton-Coyne. BTW, he did run the Indy 500 in 1997 as well for Beck Motorsports.
    I personally never heard his name again. or if i did, it didn't create the same lasting memory I have of him all those years ago. Beck Motors circa '97 ain't exactly setting the world on fire. Thats a name I just flat forgot.
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    I think Indycar is setting themselves up for another Las Vegas black eye.

    The reality is that EVERY driver in the 500 is a "rookie" this year. Not one of them has any experience driving the DW12 with traffic on an oval. Does it make ANY sense to put Alesi into that mix ?? He's going to try to perform well (just as Dan Weldon felt the pressure) in an oval race (which he has never done before) in a car that most people acknowledge has little chance of being in the top ten at the end of the race (unless 20+ cars fall out before the end).

    I'm not looking forward to a "race" that has rolling chicanes (Lotus), a fair chance that a number of engines will periodically oil the track, and drivers like Rubens and Jean trying to learn the art of racing in traffic on an oval.

    Indycar should be doing all it can to ensure that the drivers entered in the race are experienced on ovals. New cars and new engines throw enough variables out there that even the experienced drivers will have to do some "learning" in the early stages of the race. Mixing in completely "rookie" drivers like Alesi is IMHO asking for trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadazzZ06 View Post
    I think Indycar is setting themselves up for another Las Vegas black eye.
    So, after reading your post, you're essentially saying that Alesi and Barrichello are going to kill someone out there.

    Rookies have raced at Indy every year. Stop with the paranoia. Even if something happens...guess what...it's racing. Conway and Hunter-Reay weren't rookies and look how that turned out, and it had nothing to do with skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5champ View Post
    Many forget that those cars in '96 were above most of the drivers who stepped it right up from sprint cars in 1996.
    Number of sprint car drivers in the 1996 Indy 500 - 1 (Tony Stewart)

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    http://www.facebook.com/Jean.Alesi.l...50732103062066

    He certainly sounds like he's got a deal.

    But with who? Guess it's sort of got to be Dragon at this point. Bourdais, Legge and Alesi teamed together. Bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fla224 View Post
    I don't see why HVM would turn down $500-750k.
    I don't see why they would take it.

    They'd have to hire more crew guys, and if he wipes out their backup car that's going to cost them.

    Plus with the Lotus handicap to deal with Simona needs to be focused on her own program, not mentoring him on how to drive IMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwaldrep51 View Post
    Number of sprint car drivers in the 1996 Indy 500 - 1 (Tony Stewart)
    Forgive me, I was watching the PPG Indy car world series race at Michigan that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5champ View Post
    Forgive me, I was watching the PPG Indy car world series race at Michigan that day.
    Really? How'd that one turn out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHJIndy View Post
    Really? How'd that one turn out.
    Was a normal Michigan Indy race. The Indycar drivers were there, Indycar teams were there, packed grand stands of fans on a cold day were there, but we were at the wrong track for the day ...felt like the 1st day of the split

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5champ View Post
    Forgive me, I was watching the PPG Indy car world series race at Michigan that day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joboo View Post


    today in the French sports press article
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    D'où viens cet article? D'après lui, Alesi va courrir pour HVM... Alors que plusieurs sources sérieuses affirment que Keith Wiggins a rejeté son offre. Ni Alesi ni HVM n'ont fait un annoncement sur ce sujet, en tout cas.

    (Where does this article come from? According to it, Alesi will drive for HVM... While according to most serious sources, Wiggins rejected his offers. Alesi and HVM didn't make any official announcement on that matter, anyway.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrdinaryRaceFan View Post
    D'où viens cet article? D'après lui, Alesi va courrir pour HVM... Alors que plusieurs sources sérieuses affirment que Keith Wiggins a rejeté son offre. Ni Alesi ni HVM n'ont fait un annoncement sur ce sujet, en tout cas.

    (Where does this article come from? According to it, Alesi will drive for HVM... While according to most serious sources, Wiggins rejected his offers. Alesi and HVM didn't make any official announcement on that matter, anyway.)
    HVM will do whatever Lotus tells them to do, Marshal Pruett already confirmed this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron5572 View Post
    HVM will do whatever Lotus tells them to do, Marshal Pruett already confirmed this
    Cavin has reported otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikemat5150 View Post
    Cavin has reported otherwise
    Jean is going to drive Indy, so what team will it be for.....there's only 1 real possibility. Wiggins saying "no comment" say it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unzerdog View Post
    I personally never heard his name again. or if i did, it didn't create the same lasting memory I have of him all those years ago. Beck Motors circa '97 ain't exactly setting the world on fire. Thats a name I just flat forgot.
    I don't remember him ever running in CART after 1994 and apparently nobody else on teh interwebz does either. Looks like he ran 5 races in British Touring Car in 1998.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron5572 View Post
    Jean is going to drive Indy, so what team will it be for.....there's only 1 real possibility. Wiggins saying "no comment" say it all
    Cavin on May 4th
    Lotus still only has three cars: Two at Dragon Racing and one at HVM Racing. Dragon could add the 500′s 33rd car for Jay Howard. HVM is believed to have turned down an offer to run former Formula One driver Jean Alesi, who is shopping high six-figure backing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron5572 View Post
    HVM will do whatever Lotus tells them to do, Marshal Pruett already confirmed this
    Not so at all.

    Read Wiggins comments here:

    http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...nited-for-indy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racing Steward View Post
    The fact that LOTUS with all their finanical issues is throwing around all of this cash trying to get someone to put Alesi in a car, I think speaks volumes about what the owners in the paddock think of him and his ability pr lacktherof to drive at this stage in his life. The guy is 47 or 48 years old, hasnt driven an open wheel car in over a decade, last competetive car he was in was 2 years ago in a Le Mans GT car. Im sorry, im not seeing it. I said when all the rumors started, if there is less than 36 cars, me may make the race but he will be in the back all day long and will not be competitive at all. Legge would be the only Lotus he could beat. And all of that is ASSUMING he even makes it to the race without destroying a car or hurting himself.

    Marshall even acknowledged that there is little interest in him.
    Davey Hamilton and John Andretti (each in their late forties) seem to get around okay. Age doesnt stop them. Yes Alesi hasnt been in an open wheel car in 10 years or ever on on oval, but if Milka Duno & Marty Roth can do it, Jean Alesi damn sure can hold his own. Nobody said he was going to be any kind of threat, not that anyone driving a Lotus would be.

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    There's no doubt Jean Alesi's skill set and experience built up from all his years in Formula 1 and you could say the DTM if you want will help him around Indy for this one off first time oval race in an uncompetitive team with an uncompetitive engine. But it will be down to how well he can adapt to this new skill set it will take to be competitive around Indianapolis. There is no doubt unless he was in Rubens' shoes who has a vastly experienced team mate on the ovals and even EJ, set up and advice will not be a problem for him and the fact that he will be doing oval races after, next year he will be fine. Mansell soon adapated although he had the best oval package in 1993. Unfortunately racing for this fan fare united team that ran in 1997-1999 is not going to get to the line first and if there was bumping i'm sure he wouldn't make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red5champ View Post
    Mansell soon adapated although he had the best oval package in 1993.
    Mansell did an enormous amount of testing during the offseason, he had the best equipment, Mario Andretti as a teammate, and he hadn't just taken an 11 year vacation from open wheel. Sorry but there's no correlation there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    Mansell did an enormous amount of testing during the offseason, he had the best equipment, Mario Andretti as a teammate, and he hadn't just taken an 11 year vacation from open wheel. Sorry but there's no correlation there.
    No need to say sorry, you're right. i was there. Firebird IR Arizona I was there. Mansell brought me over to the sport. My point being that he adapated and was comptitive on the ovals instantly which in effect won him the PPG cup that year as the Lola,Ford-Cosworth wasn't a match for the Penske on the street/road courses. My point is that it can be done if you do things that right way like Mansell did and I suppose you could even say Juan Paublo Montoya in away and Zanardi got there in the end when the Firestone tyre got better on the shorter ovals and Team Target got a better set up.

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