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Any ideas as to which team this might be?
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Any ideas as to which team this might be?
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Andretti Autosport
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Andretti. He already said he will be expanding into Nascar. Whether that is because he hates the direction of Indycar or thinks it won't survive 5 years or just thinks he can make some good money over there, I don't know.
What I do know is that Indycar is superior to Nascar in every way except the pocketbook, and that sucks.
When has Andretti been quoted as saying he will expand to NASCAR? Do you have a link to that?Originally Posted by millrace
I don't know why Mikey would hate the direction of Indycar....he is essentially invested in AOWR from the bottom of the ladder to the top.
If Mikey did go NASCAR reason it would be because Dodge would pay him big $$ to do so.
Sometime ago I did read they wanted to expand. Can't remember well if they talked about NASCAR, but I think they did.
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Yeah, I think part of the reasoning Michael gave was that they'll be able to do NASCAR/IndyCar cross-sponsorship deals like Penske & Ganassi do.
Obviously there's probably some financial benefits as well when you have more team resources.
Sponsorship is tough to find in NASCAR too, but I'm guessing Dodge will be able to hook them up with at least some.
Some time ago you read the rumor that Jenna Fryer had in a story which has been repeated. What no one has seen is something from Michael saying he wants to expand to NASCAR.
Michael knows it would be foolish to start from scratch. He's not a bad businessman, all he has to do is talk to AJ, Tony Stewart, Chip and Roger to know quickly what not to do. Before he even thinks about how to get in he has to find out who will build the Dodge engines, maybe Penske could be Joey Arrington. But his best bet is to buy an existing team so at least he has the framework of a NASCAR organization, some good employees who know who to hire. The manufacturer conflicts of the past are in the past.
There are some teams that could be had. It won't happen but if he could purchase Robby Gordon's team he'd have a decent start, I think Doug Richert is still there. To be honest subtracting Robby Gordon from any NASCAR organization probably helps it. Then with that money maybe Robby could start an Indycar team. No those two things aren't at odds, there's just a way to make a small team work in NASCAR and Robby is not the type to be able to make it work but in Indycar I don't think he would have the same problems.
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If the Andretti/Dodge/NASCAR connection is more then just a rumor I wouldn't be surprised if it was an empty threat by Andretti to get what he wants in Indycar. Maybe Micheal is taking a picture out of Senna or Ferrari's book and threatening to go somewhere else unless Indycar shapes up to his own image. I don't know. I just like to speculate. :P
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I've read the same thing and he acknowledged AA is exploring it. Mikey is definitely following the footsteps of Penske and Ganassi in going both feet and an arm in supporting American racing of all forms if you ask me.
If Andretti does move to NASCAR, would a team that he could partner with be Richard Petty Motorsports? It could allow John Andretti a few more races in both NASCAR and for next year's 500. I could also see them putting Marco in a car for Daytona...
Considering how much lament is devoted to drivers not racing in more than one form anymore, that sounds like fun. Honestly, I'd like to see Michael give it a go.
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The Dodge NASCAR effort needs a team that also builds engines.
Andretti Autosport & Richard Petty Motorsports are NOT set up to build engines & 6 months until 2013 is not a reasonable time either...
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The thing anyone has said is that FIAT's interest in NASCAR is highly questionable. Petty said it, DeLorenzo said it.
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I have no reason to doubt that Andretti does or will have interest in Nascar but the BS about it being due to dissatisfaction with the IICS is just that.
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Penske must have felt it as well... the main reason he will run Fords in 2013 (& beyond).
Hunter-Reay is running the new ALMS GT2 (E?) spec, Viper GTS-R so naturally Andretti Autosport will now run Dodge Chargers in NASCAR eh
I believe it was Sullivan who said, when the music stops, Roger always has a chair.
And the box office...and TV viewership...and team sponsorship...and series sponsorship...and TV production...and American racing talent....and stability of the sport....and leadership....and anything else????
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Because in Indy Cars, Roger owns most of the chairs to begin with and he can pick out his best chair before anyone else is allowed to.
Those are all directly derivative of the pocketbook / popularity of the series. Well, maybe not leadership, but a popular series tends to make you look smarter
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Interesting - seems like a complete violation of the laws of economics.
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Need a Dodge engine builder? Got one....name is Penske (though the idea is not without issues)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor...CAR/53751514/1
At one time Bill Davis built his Dodge engines
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Let's not forget that Andretti Autosport (and in previous names) has always looked for viable ways to expand their motorsports footprint. This expansion includes ALMS and A1GP. I believe AA works with an economy of scale. I presume they put that to sponsors–that they can provide more for less because of the number of cars they have. And that proposal goes further when there are secondary and tertiary programs in place. NASCAR could be the boon that puts AA over the top, in terms of budget security. A profit-gaining NASCAR bid could bolster all of AA–including the promotional arm.
More on Mikey and Cup...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/rac...dretti-nascar/
How about schedule stability? Changing the weeknd of longstanding events has cost IndyCar several ovals, including my beloved MIS.
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Andretti is attempting to secure his teams future with manufacturer support. With the potential influx of FIAT into IndyCar, one must believe that Andretti is a key negotiater in that suspected deal. I can imagine an all FIAT Andretti team. He would have manufacturer support, solid sponsorship on top of what he has, and event sponsorship for the future. Andretti is a smart man and this would absolutely put him on the Ganassi/Penske level expect with North American drivers and support.
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Yes, because of someone's pipe dream, then you MUST believe...
FIAT in Indycar ?? I believe we'll see Indycars race in China first.
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Not as FIAT, but Dodge branding...It has been widely rumored for some time now.
FIAT in Indycar ?? I believe we'll see Indycars race in China first.
With the only supporting "evidence" is Dodge saying they really really want to stay in NASCAR, but if they can't, they will evaluate their options going forward, which everyone on here took it to mean "DODGE TO INDYCAR!!!!!"
I guess Roger Penske is going to bring Ford to IndyCar after his NASCAR team is switching to Ford from Dodge (nevermind that he just brought Chevy into IndyCar and that his company has developed their engines).
Oh, and I guess Chip Ganassi will be bringing Honda into NASCAR next year, since his IndyCar team is Honda...
Seriously. NASCAR and IndyCar have very few manufacturer connections now, with the big teams with IndyCar/NASCAR teams teamed with competing manufacturers in each series.
I won't believe Dodge coming to IndyCar without hard evidence. Dodge really has never had much of an identity with IndyCar.
Interesting ... is Kenseth locked into Gibbs or is he available?
To me that's the guy to build the team around for the first 5 yrs.
Michael seems to have gotten the Indy car team in a good place both driver and equipment wise.
I'd hate to see them flounder taking on a huge new startup.
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