Dixon Compliments the League on TMS Aero Options

[KnockOff]

"Compliments"

http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/06-...ions-for-Texas

"Dixon, driver of the No. 9 Target Chip Ganassi Racing car, appreciated the range of options on the car afforded by the sanctioning body.

“Instead of coming here with a 10-degree rear flap that created more pack racing and people didn’t have the options to try to separate themselves and create different strategies or be fast for 20 laps but have to lift later on in the stint, there are options,” said Dixon, who won the 2008 race at Texas on the way to his second series championship. “It will be difficult to drive for a race stint, which I think is good.

“Having the car in a situation where you can take a lot of downforce off it’s pretty difficult and qualifying could actually be difficult for a change. At Texas, that’s pretty big.”

[Ganassifan]

Completes or compliments?

[nascarfan71080]

Completes or compliments?

I think he meant your 2nd option and yes I agree with Scott, it has the drivers drive the cars and not just ride around like a lesurely drive

[Mike Kellner]

I think it is going to be great racing.

I have wanted to take the downforce off the cars at Texas since forever.

Hopefully single pack racing is on the ash heap of history.

[cornutt]

Should be interesting. I assume everyone ran pretty trimmed out for qualifying. It'll be interesting to see how much downforce they put back on for the race.

[red5champ]

seems all the drivers have mixed views on pack racing and are looking forward to no pack racing. even ed carpenter..

[Oben]

Wonder if he approves of the rear wicker being put back on.

[cornutt]

Wonder if he approves of the rear wicker being put back on.

It's optional, right? And do they have choices of sizes?

[Oben]

It's optional, right? And do they have choices of sizes?

Up to 1/8" max height, full width. Roughly 125 lbs. of downforce according to Will Phillips.

[Mike Kellner]

Is that mandatory to slow the cars, or something they can add during the race to alter downforce?

[DanFan]

I think it is going to be great racing.

I have wanted to take the downforce off the cars at Texas since forever.

Hopefully single pack racing is on the ash heap of history.

I believe it is now officially dead everywhere but Talledegga and Daytona. The minute NASCAR gets rid of it at those tracks I will actually (don't stone me, please) buy a ticket to the Daytona 500. INDYCAR deserves much praise for basically eliminating it this from open wheel racing this season.

[Mike Kellner]

INDYCAR deserves much praise for basically eliminating it this from open wheel racing this season.

I am hoping this is true, but I will wait until after tomorrow's race to be sure.

[Neshaminy]

Question......how hard is it to change wing angle on the new cars by a half to full degree if you need to help a handling or traffic problem? Glad to see a little positive by one of the racers. Hopefully it's catchy!

[Oben]

Is that mandatory to slow the cars, or something they can add during the race to alter downforce?

I imagine that anybody that is going to use it was running with it during final practice, and that will be their setup for the race.

Probably does slow the car down a little.

[Neshaminy]

I believe it is now officially dead everywhere but Talledegga and Daytona. The minute NASCAR gets rid of it at those tracks I will actually (don't stone me, please) buy a ticket to the Daytona 500. INDYCAR deserves much praise for basically eliminating it this from open wheel racing this season.

What kind of racing might Daytona and 'Dega have if they knocked the banks to say 18 degrees? Even 23 degrees? They would become real driver's tracks.......even the sports cars would benefit and the 24 would take some driving instead of riding.......we can only hope

[cheeseczar]

Dixon is the racing stud most others in the series strive to...avoid being.

[Team Canada]

Dixon is the racing stud most others in the series strive to...avoid being.

Funny how the older drivers that have driven something other than a fully downforced Dallara are the ones welcoming the change.

They started driving ovals in 900hp cars that needed to be driven with care around an oval.

That is how it should be..... seperate the wannabe's with the oughttabe's

[KnockOff]

Funny how the older drivers that have driven something other than a fully downforced Dallara are the ones welcoming the change.

They started driving ovals in 900hp cars that needed to be driven with care around an oval.

Didn't they end up having to put parachutes on them which caused them to play perpetual leap frog?

[goldie19]

Funny how the older drivers that have driven something other than a fully downforced Dallara are the ones welcoming the change.

They started driving ovals in 900hp cars that needed to be driven with care around an oval.

That is how it should be..... seperate the wannabe's with the oughttabe's

TK is pretty solidly in the "more downforce" camp....Wilson too

[zapp2525]

Funny how the older drivers that have driven something other than a fully downforced Dallara are the ones welcoming the change.

They started driving ovals in 900hp cars that needed to be driven with care around an oval.

That is how it should be..... seperate the wannabe's with the oughttabe's

[indyrox@lith]

Didn't they end up having to put parachutes on them which caused them to play perpetual leap frog?

What they should have done was just built the parachute in like Dallara has done.

What's this "league" the OP speaks of?

[red5champ]

Funny how the older drivers that have driven something other than a fully downforced Dallara are the ones welcoming the change.

They started driving ovals in 900hp cars that needed to be driven with care around an oval.

That is how it should be..... seperate the wannabe's with the oughttabe's

+1

[eastofeastside]

Funny how the older drivers that have driven something other than a fully downforced Dallara are the ones welcoming the change.

They started driving ovals in 900hp cars that needed to be driven with care around an oval.

That is how it should be..... seperate the wannabe's with the oughttabe's

+1

This camp of opinion needs to win over the fans that just watch a lot of passes in a high downforce, flat out, contrived race and call it an "exciting race" and "great racing".

If you're in that camp and disagree, then check out what Dixon just said:

“I think it will be better racing; it won’t be fake racing,” Dixon said. “When you see passes, they will be complete passes now and not cars stuck side by side.”

http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/06-...final-practice

"it won’t be fake racing,” - That's saying it all right there and pretty bold of Indycar to include it on their own website.

[red5champ]

+1

This camp of opinion needs to win over the fans that just watch a lot of passes in a high downforce, flat out, contrived race and call it an "exciting race" and "great racing".

If you're in that camp and disagree, then check out what Dixon just said:

http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/06-...final-practice

"it won’t be fake racing,” - That's saying it all right there and pretty bold of Indycar to include it on their own website.

Thanks for that post. I think it's going to be my new signature....

[TimmyZ1]

As long as they can pass I don't care.

[jabba19]

Didn't they end up having to put parachutes on them which caused them to play perpetual leap frog?

Perpetual leap frog? Kind of like the type of racing at Indy this year? Of course, many that chided the hanford device likely were "on the edge of their seats" watching Indy this year.

[Turn13]

Didn't Dixon once apologize for the lack of passing at TMS?

Of course, I think it was a race he pretty much led from stem to stern

[Racing Steward]

Dixon knows what he's talking about. He's been around awhile and done it all and he's also the best all around driver in our series. I think too many drivers (Like Marco & Ed) have become spoiled as another poster stated, driving these high downforce cars and now they cant seem to handle a car that actually requires the driver to drive it. This will compliment the better drivers in the end and who knows maybe now a better driver in a lesser car can make something happen like they can on road & streets. Before if you didnt have the speed on an oval, you were screwed completely. Now maybe there's a fighting chance.

[Mike Kellner]

Perpetual leap frog? Kind of like the type of racing at Indy this year? Of course, many that chided the hanford device likely were "on the edge of their seats" watching Indy this year.

We were close to Handford device racing this year. If anything, I'd like to see a bit less strong draft in the future.

I also want to see Texas before I declare the packs to be history. Indy never formed packs with the old cars because of the single line nature of the turns. A strong draft could cause them to form.

I still wonder if a lower downforce speedway undertray* and smaller speedway wings running at a positive angle might not find the missing speed at Indy and reduce the draft a bit more. It seems to me that running the wings at negative downforce, AKA lift, is a strong indicator that the undertray is a tad on the strong side for speedways.

*Of course, this would make at least one team owner mad that they had to buy more stuff and another hangin' posse would be out looking for Randy, so I realize it ain't gonna happen.

[KnockOff]

Perpetual leap frog? Kind of like the type of racing at Indy this year? Of course, many that chided the hanford device likely were "on the edge of their seats" watching Indy this year.

Yes, "perpetual leap frog" with "900 hp engines" to the extend that Michael Whinedretti almost threw a lay-down-and-kick hissy fit after the race.