Do you see even a single section that's 25% full? Note the infield.... not exactly packed.
This is why ovals are dropping like flies and streets are beeing added hand over fist. How the series can ask for $1 - $1.5 mill sanction fee when 30,000 show up at an oval is beyyyyond me.
Snobbery in OW still has no bounds it seems.
These are the "middle" stands. Barely 1/4 full.
Rest in peace, Dan Wheldon 1978 - 2011
That isn't barely half full...
It's way less than half.
But you're right... these are the best sections. As shown above, many, many sections were barren of life forms.
post #66 has sections that are very close to start/finish. You can see the small oval that I assume is used for carting.
No section appears to be 25% full. Many sections pictured in the additional photos are 100% empty.
By my math that leaves 50% full as an impossibility.
Watch the race if you have it saved. Many more shots exemplify the emptiness we're discussing, but are more easily seen as moving video.
Very close to the center.
There's a reason others disagree.
Take the most recent pic... the "almost center" one... how dense do you see that as being?
Give me a number... what do your eyes see.
Or the newly added S/F pic... you see the flagstand... look at the section right behind it.
< 25% full?
What do you see?
I don't know if you saw today's SBK races, but they were pretty electric. In fact, I was thinking to myself while watching them, "If somebody weren't a Superbike Fan or (better yet) hadn't ever seen an SBK race, *THESE* races today could immediately turn somebody into a fan."
Ask yourself this (and I think this is what TheBear was getting at as well): Did what you see last night have the spectacle, the electricity, etc. to *immediately* turn somebody with complete lack of exposure to the series into a fan? Be honest.
And before you answer, didn't one of the drivers have their PR rep tweet an apology to the fans during the race???
Have you any facts to support your position?
If the high estimate was 300,000, would you expect people to believe 150,000 were there last night?
I think you've been given tangible evidence that you're incorrect. I'm interested to see how you proceed.
I would think 50K is a reasonable estimate.
Btw, has Eddie Gossage said anything about the race? about race next year?
Maybe quiet Eddie means he is happy
That's a fair question.. No, I don't think it was the kind of thing to instantly grab massive quantities of fans. I think it is a good first step in the right direction, a place that will take many, many steps to get to.
Carpenter's carping means nothing to me. I assumed he was kidding, if not, he's exhibiting the same type of selfishness that got the sport where it is right now.
If he wasn't kidding, he may have been accepting the fact that he's irrelevant as a racecar driver with this type of setup. No worries, he won't have to earn his ride (as per the usual), he's an owner, after all.
One other note... some folks have looked at last night as getting away from "the NASCAR style of packracing". I disagree. Daytona and Talladega being obvious exceptions, most NASCAR oval races more closely resemble what we saw last night, cars spread out, cars that were at least faster for the moment caught and passed cars that were slower.
In other words, I don't think the sport had a chance to grow at all the way they were running in recent years. Based on what I saw yesterday, assuming they don't Uck Fup it, gives them a chance to do so, IMO.
For all of you bitching about attendance, what reason do you give for the poor turnout?
My Band's website!!!!
I'm not interested in a forensic investigation into the attendance of a race.
If that's the only way the discussion can be resolved, you "win" by default. (The quotation marks are the key to that sentence.)