Texas attendance

[Cosworth]

They might have sold 60,000 tickets including season pass holders.

That's what matters, tickets sold. Could care less if you show up.

[jabba19]

You answered it. So Texas must have had a different deal than other SMI tracks.

I believe the practice you are talking about only happened at Chicagoland and Kansas, both ISC tracks.

[Doyouloveit?]

I believe the practice you are talking about only happened at Chicagoland and Kansas, both ISC tracks.

Thanks.

[TexManZero]

If there was really 30,000 people there, then Gossage would go ahead and tell of IndyCar. Now we're talking about a second race that will draw less? Folks, you may want the attendance to be at 30,000, but it was a lot more than that. All the pictures that I've seen have been from the truck race, which is odd because last time I checked the truck series didn't use open wheel cars.

69,000 tickets were sold. That's what counts folks; and it sure as hell looks like there were enough fans in the stands. If you believe it was less, then there is no reason for the past five races to have even taken place.

[PenelopePitstop]

That's what matters, tickets sold. Could care less if you show up.

That totally depends on the selling price of the tix. Freebies mailed to select patrons are given with the hopes that those fans will bring others who will purchase concessions. Group tix might be sold to a small/medium business for a big discount, again with the hopes of making the profit once the fans are inside the track. Ticket sales are not the final profit point - concession sales can easily make the difference in profitability.

Very few who paid anywhere near full price are going to miss the event, but if you are given a complimentary ticket or two from your boss or free with a lube job, the odds of going are greatly reduced.

69,000 tickets distributed is most likely the basis for the attendance numbers for the IICS race. (One TF member could tell us if that's true or not.)Then next year when selling signage at the track, TMS can say that 'attendance' was 69,000 and use that as a selling point.

Caveat Emptor.

[SoundMan360]

There are pics of the IndyCar race in this very thread.

Here's another.

I don't "want" the attendance to be down or up... it is what it is.

A good one of the S/F area:


Be honest... does even one section look 1/2 full?

If there was really 30,000 people there, then Gossage would go ahead and tell of IndyCar. Now we're talking about a second race that will draw less? Folks, you may want the attendance to be at 30,000, but it was a lot more than that. All the pictures that I've seen have been from the truck race, which is odd because last time I checked the truck series didn't use open wheel cars.

69,000 tickets were sold. That's what counts folks; and it sure as hell looks like there were enough fans in the stands. If you believe it was less, then there is no reason for the past five races to have even taken place.

[Ken]

That's what matters, tickets sold. Could care less if you show up.

Unless your randy and your trying To build a sport.... Or Sarah and you were wooing a potential sponsor

[Muskie4041]

That's what matters, tickets sold. Could care less if you show up.

I guarantee you Gossage doesn't feel this way. The price of admission, and I really doubt everyone in attendance paid full price, is only the starting point for the money they expect to extract from your wallet. If you sell 70k and only 30k show up, then you lost out 40k worth of food, drink, and merchandise.

[Jakester]

That's what matters, tickets sold. Could care less if you show up.

Penelope is right on this one. Showing up does matter, as a live patron generates another revenue stream in concession sales. Even a soft drink and pretzel generates another $10-$15 per person.

[doitagain]

Do attendance threads help attendance?

[PenelopePitstop]

Do attendance threads help attendance?

Not as much as honest reporting of actual attendance would.

[mattndallas]

If there was really 30,000 people there, then Gossage would go ahead and tell of IndyCar. Now we're talking about a second race that will draw less? Folks, you may want the attendance to be at 30,000, but it was a lot more than that. All the pictures that I've seen have been from the truck race, which is odd because last time I checked the truck series didn't use open wheel cars.

69,000 tickets were sold. That's what counts folks; and it sure as hell looks like there were enough fans in the stands. If you believe it was less, then there is no reason for the past five races to have even taken place.

Gotta disagree, man. Saturday was the worst crowd we've had ever...by a mile. We were 3 sections over from where the PSL's ended in T1, and just strolled up 30 mins before the flag, with 25 people, in the upper level, and found row upon row of empties.

I'd sat 30k is on the high end. Wish it was better, but it was bad.

[jackinbox]

A good one of the S/F area:


Be honest... does even one section look 1/2 full?

[SoundMan360]

In case you were wondering, it does not appear as if those seats are radioactive or anything:

[Captain Spyro]

Do attendance threads help attendance?

Not necessarily, but they can help is at least keeping the fan aware of attendance issues and potential solutions.