We are slower

[Hardscrabble]

Perspective:

111 Poles at Milwaukee thru 2009

The CART/CC speeds are inflated 3MPH or the IC speeds are deflated 3 MPH since 96 depending on your point of view.


Event Speed Sanction
1 82.8 AAA
2 91.7 AAA
3 86.2 AAA
4 88.6 AAA
5 86.9 AAA
6 90.7 AAA
7 88.5 AAA
8 88.9 AAA
9 90.3 AAA
10 96.1 AAA
11 89.8 AAA
12 94.5 AAA
13 92.6 AAA
14 96.6 AAA
15 96.9 AAA
16 98.8 AAA
17 98.5 AAA
18 99.9 AAA
19 102.1 AAA
20 95.8 AAA
21 100.3 AAA
22 99.2 AAA
23 100.8 AAA
24 99.3 AAA
25 99.5 AAA
26 101.1 AAA
27 101.0 USAC
28 101.1 USAC
29 101.2 USAC
30 102.0 USAC
31 101.4 USAC
32 100.3 USAC
33 101.5 USAC
34 101.4 USAC
35 101.5 USAC
36 103.4 USAC
37 105.4 USAC
38 105.6 USAC
39 105.1
40 104.0 USAC
41 104.7 USAC
42 109.3 USAC
43 108.6 USAC
44 111.0 USAC
45 110.8
46 111.0 USAC
47 107.9
48 111.7 USAC
49 111.5 USAC
50 109.8 USAC
51 115.7 USAC
52 116.2 USAC
53 119.2 USAC
54 119.1 USAC
55 119.6 USAC
56 119.4 USAC
57 119.3 USAC
58 118.9 USAC
59 122.3 USAC
60 126.0 USAC
61 127.9 USAC
62 127.8 USAC
63 131.8 USAC
64 129.0 USAC
65 129.7 USAC
66 128.8 USAC
67 129.5 USAC
68 127.7 USAC
69 129.5 USAC
70 131.5 USAC
71 132.5 USAC
72 134.8 USAC
73 134.9 USAC
74 131.2 USAC
75 134.2 USAC
76 135.7 CART
77 138.1 CART
78 139.0 CART
79 140.2 CART
80 147.0 CART
81 148.4 CART
82 141.5 CART
83 147.6 CART
84 152.3 CART
85 157.8 CART
86 157.8 CART
87 161.4 CART
88 166.0 CART
89 162.5 CART
90 167.5 CART
91 168.1 CART
92 171.1 CART
93 166.5 CART
94 167.7 CART
95 — CART
96 184.3 CART
97 185.5 CART
98 169.4 CART
99 177.8
100 — CART
101 167.5 CART
102 177.9 CART
103 181.2 CCWS
104 160.2 IRL
105 176.2 CCWS
106 170.3
107 175.4 CCWS
108 172.5 IRL
109 171.1 IRL
110 168.1 IRL
111 168.4 IRL

Hard to imagine I enjoyed the race in 1982 after the speeds in 1981...

[FTHurley]

Come on Hurley. You're a smart guy. I know you think things through. This post though, come on. Down a bit? Let's visit the facts: pack racing IRL with American drivers like Boat, McGehee, and Beechler = monster Texas crowd. Indycar linear racing at Texas = abysmal crowd only a shell of it's former glory.

You're taking a five-year window and extrapolating it out to a path forward for racing. That doesn't hold water. It's equally possible that the fans that packed Texas during those early IRL years were doing so partly as a way to flip off the CART owners they saw as having ruined their sport.

[Will O'Hargan]

You're taking a five-year window and extrapolating it out to a path forward for racing. That doesn't hold water. It's equally possible that the fans that packed Texas during those early IRL years were doing so partly as a way to flip off the CART owners they saw as having ruined their sport.

Not mention a massive shift in the economy that has limited the expendable income of many lower and lower middle class Americans.

[FTHurley]

Not mention a massive shift in the economy that has limited the expendable income of many lower and lower middle class Americans.

That too. Plus, you know, the internet is a thing now. The world has changed since 1998. These things happen.

[skypigeon]

The bottom line is whining about what was, does nothing whatsoever to make what is, the best it can or could be.