Because we don't pay to see commercials.Originally Posted by SoundMan360
Or was that a trick question?
Because we don't pay to see commercials.
Or was that a trick question?
Cancer sucks.
The Chargers have also indicated that they probably will not lower their threshold from 100%. And this is coming from a team that had two blackouts in 2011 and three in 2010.
Teams must make a decision by Sunday.
But they (NFL and teams) get money for showing them to us.Because we don't pay to see commercials.
Or was that a trick question?
Not a trick at all.
You pay for commercials with your time and attention. It is irrelevant if you actually buy anything advertised or not.
It's like the 700 club, except exactly the opposite!
Who watches commercials? I'd guess that most football fans head to the fridge or the restroom during commercials, or check the other NFL game(s).
Anyway, I clearly mentioned that NFL on TV requires nothing of us other than our support. That "support" includes taking the time and effort to turn on games.
Then why should the size of the crowd effect whether you get to view or not? Within reason (85%).
I hadn't realized you meant "support" in the passive sense.
There are an average of 44 commercials an hour. Your bladder is that tiny? Your tummy is that big?
A think a few people are watching them
I have Sunday Ticket. For me, there's no such thing as a commercial on Sunday afternoons in the fall.
The teams depend (partially) on gameday revenue. They NEED big crowds both for the bottom line and for the perception and buzz surrounding the team.
I watch the same way, but we're still the small minority of viewers. They get their moneys worth from us in other ways, as you know.
I can't think of a single positive for a team to lower it from 100%. What am I missing?
Post #26, and #27 after it.
Just some thoughts.
Thanks, good points.
Dolphins unsure, or at least they're not letting on.
Dolphins CEO Mike Dee said the team hasn't made a decision on whether or not take advantage of the NFL's new blackout policy -- which reduces the number of seats a team must sell to 85 percent, but requires teams to share more revenue with visiting teams -- but said the team will do "everything we can" -- organically or otherwise -- to make sure its home games are on local television.
"Our goal is always to do everything we can to keep the games on local television," Dee said on Thursday. "And market and sell and do everything we can to sell as many tickets as possible, and hopefully get to that point in time when we can sell out the games organically."
Bills follow the lead of the Colts and Chargers:
The Buffalo Bills, in a move likely to irk many fans, are opting out of the new National Football League policy that allows the lifting of television blackouts if at least 85 percent of nonpremium seats are sold.
"We are not going to participate in the relaxed-manifest rule," chief executive officer Russ Brandon told The Buffalo News. "We are a volume-based business, and for us to be successful, we need to keep our ticket prices low and sell a greater number of tickets."Brandon gave three main reasons for the Bills' decision:
* Of the Bills' last six blacked-out home games, only one reached the 85 percent threshold for nonpremium ticket sales. The other five games would have been blacked out, even under the new relaxed rule. And sales for most of those five games fell well short of the 85 percent figure.
* Any team taking advantage of the new policy would have to pay a higher share of gate receipts into a leaguewide revenue pool. While Brandon wouldn't discuss specifics, it's believed that the higher share would have cost the Bills somewhere in the neighborhood of $500,000 per season. Brandon called that "a significant revenue loss" that would translate into higher ticket prices.
* The Bills also fear that the new policy, if adopted, would have threatened the team's ticket base. The feeling is that more fans might opt out of season tickets or individual-game tickets, figuring that they could stay home and watch the games on television.
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The rub is that the Bills - for every home game - would have had to pay into a league-wide revenue fund a substantially higher percentage of gate receipts for every ticket above that 51,000 figure. A sold-out game would have cost the team about $90,000 per game.
I don't know if the NFL thought this all the way through, or maybe they're just using this as an excuse to make the individual teams (not the league) look like the bad guys in the blackout discussion.
Based on those numbers above - and considering they're talking about a boat load more tickets, I feel pretty good about my SWAG on the Colts numbers below:The rub is that the Bills - for every home game - would have had to pay into a league-wide revenue fund a substantially higher percentage of gate receipts for every ticket above that 51,000 figure. A sold-out game would have cost the team about $90,000 per game.
- IF the team were to set threshold at the current 97% of ticket sales – AND – those games sellout, a 16% penalty comes out of the Home Team fund ($21,790/game, or $217,900 for the season)
Even 90k is a lot less than the TV revenue from being on in the local market. Not to mention the goodwill and continuity aspects of keeping the game in the public eye.
You'd think each team should have actuaries who could come up with a pretty accurate picture of how many tix they'll sell. Why not figure that estimate to the best of your ability, (at some number above 85%, say), and then minimize the risk of a high payout to the other team.
Local TV coverage of a 3.5 hour event is far more important than 1/2 of even 10,000 seats.
Can an actuary predict the teams' wins and losses in mid-July?
Team success is one of the most important factors in ticket sales.
TB just announced that they're going with 85%. Must not be looking good in South Florida, but is good for the fans (assuming they can get to 85%)
Not all NFL stadiums will get Wi-Fi in 2012
...five stadiums will serve in a pilot program that will give fans wireless service and in-game apps (some of which could allow fans to listen to players who are wearing microphones on the field). Those stadiums are: MetLife Stadium (for the Giants and Jets), Gillette Stadium (for the Patriots), Bank of America Stadium (for the Panthers), Lucas Oil Stadium (for the Colts) and the Superdome (for the Saints).
Fans watching inside the homes for the Colts and the Patriots will get to use NFL RedZone as part of their in-stadium app. The Panthers, meanwhile, will allow fans to see replays from a number of camera angles.
How much does it cost a fan to watch a game from inside the home of an NFL player? That must be pretty steep.Fans watching inside the homes for the Colts and the Patriots will get to use NFL RedZone as part of their in-stadium app. The Panthers, meanwhile, will allow fans to see replays from a number of camera angles.
"Ride The Barrel & Get Pitted... So Pitted."
The Titans are offering a half-season ticket plan for the first time since opening their new stadium, because of a slight dip in ticket sales.
The Colts actually still have a waiting list of 2,500 customers waiting for about 7,000 seats. I guess when it's your turn to come off the waiting list, you can stay on the waiting list if there aren't tickets available in your desired location or price range.
BTW, they are down to 1,800 season tickets remaining, almost all of them up high in the $69 range.
IndyStar article
I don't know if it's the hot, dry summer, or getting excited about Andrew Luck, or both, but I am really looking forward to football season.
It's hard to be cool when your dad is Goofy.
Maybe it's because the leaves are changing.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...=2012207220371
It's a Hoosier thing, you wouldn't understand...
Are they? Already?
Not everywhere. This is the first I've seen or heard of it. No leaf color in my area.
Redskins @ Bills preseason opener to be blacked out Thursday, as over 20,000 tickets remained unsold on Monday.
The Bills did not opt for a lower sellout threshold.
Apparently the Raiders have adopted the new 85% threshold.
Odd. They didn't have a single blackout last year. I don't know how creative they had to be to do so. But it could cost them a lot of money this year...
If the amount given back to the visiting team is less than the money from local TV, future tix sold by fans who enjoyed the game, merchandise sold as a result of the locals seeing game etc... THEN, and only then does it "cost them" money.
I would imagine the local affilliate has been buying a ton of tix earn the lifting of the blackout in recent years. They won't have to now.
Also, keep in mind that where the league shares TV money, local affilliates have other ways of "paying back the team", e.g. discounted ads for ticket sales, PR appearances of athletes and coaches on the affilliate, airing the coach's TV show, etc.
There's also a ton of goodwill towards fans by announcing you're doing everything in your power to keep them happy.
The Raiders have made this an issue for fans to feel good about. The fact that other teams have even a small amount of vocal fans irate about how they handled it tells me other teams aren't handling this as well as the Raiders have.
Happy fans buy more stuff.
Or the team themselves. That's exactly what I meant by being "creative."
Nothing new. Down in Miami the TV station would buy them and give them out to ad clients, boys and girls clubs, scouts... stuff like that.
Only if it was close though. If the Bills were coming to town the place was going to be mostly empty unless the team was particularly good that year. At the time the 'Fins were beating Buffalo like 25 straight times. Joe Ferguson was allergic to the sun, or something. Or South Beach, maybe.
South Beach was truly crazy back in the 60's-80's.
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