Montoya damn near won it in 2000, and that was without any prize bonus for doing it!Originally Posted by lindaw
Montoya damn near won it in 2000, and that was without any prize bonus for doing it!
Having a Triple Crown won't mean jack squat for TV numbers or ticket sales.
I agree with this. However, you have to start doing it and make it a big deal, most likely with a large money bonus if you pull it off. Then after a while it becomes a bigger deal. Still probably won't up ticket sales or tv numbers by much, but it may increase the buzz if someone comes into the last race with a chance to pull it off.
That's such a profound statement. Have any proof?
Why do we keep trying appeal to new fans? how about appealing to existing fans? Word of mouth advertising is by far the most effective
"I think there's only so many people that can take care of themselves, and can take care of other people. And the rest of the people … they're useful in terms of compost for the whole planet, you know." - Bill Murray
because there are not enough existing fans to keep the series viable!
Since you know what will not mean "jack squat" for TV or tickets, it is a given you know what will mean "jack squat". There is presently an opening at 16th and Georgetown begging for someone with this knowledge. Please apply.
^ I'll apply when new ownership takes over.
Well, unless Baltimore is a total failure and Andretti pulls out, I doubt thats gonna happen. Personally, I wish Baltimore was the week prior to labor day as they screwed my last 4 day weekend trip to beach, but they need that 3 day holiday weekend to make it work in Baltimore.
WGI failed to draw a sizeable crowd on the July 4th weekend, they can't have Memorial Day, and Labor day is spoken for. The three day weekend works for travellers, but they don't seem to understand that folks usually have longstanding traditions on Holiday weekends they aren't always too eager to change. That August hole in the schedule the week before a lot of kids go back to school looks mighty nice time for families to visit the Fingerlakes to me.
If it's going to be atriple crown, it needs to be three "endurance" races on the three largest ovals they have: Indy, Fontana and Michigan or Pocono. Winning a 400~ mile race on the 1.5's mean nothing IMHO.
Nothing else has any significance.
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Chicago BlackHawks...2010 Stanley Cup Champions...It was fun while it lasted!
So how would you explain the series still being her? With higher car counts than in the past 15 years?
If we stop LOSING fans, the fans will bring NEW fans with them.
Don't try to recreate racing thru bad gimmicks and try to sell us that it's still racing. It's NOT, and we are not dumb enough to think it is! The Ken Block gimmicky garbage won't last, stop trying to attract those people. Jump this ramp,alternate "short and long" tracks, circle the trash can....
Whatever, garbage is garbage. Give them more power and get the f out of the way
There is no reason, with the number of people in the area, that WG and Baltimore can't live together. The Glen is a different experience....it camping and staying there for the weekend. Skip HOLIDAYS as families do too much then, cities organize large events. Do it 2 weeks after Labor Day, stay on the upper east coast, and it would be great. Beautiful weather and no conflicts for racing fans (unless you count football, which may well be a problem). But the $$$ for a race weekend vs a giants or jets game may actually be a draw in itself
I remember when MMA was coming up strong and people said it would never last because boxing was a pure sport; the "sweet science." Those people sound a lot like this. Bitter because the sport they love keeps shooting itself in the foot, and jealous because there was something coming up that didn't conform to their standards. Boxing needed to reform fast and they never took the opportunity to because it was all tradition; MMA would bite the dust sooner or later.
It's not the perfect analogy, but we have to find a way to get new fans. If the current fanbase was enough, we would see a bigger swing up in attendance and ratings. The racing that we have now is starting to find a grove after years of crappy cars. We need to market this sport as larger than life. It's not about just knowing it, it's about promoting it. It's about letting people know that excitement is happening throughout the season and not just at one track for half a month. I swear if these Canadian races would just try it out with the help of IndyCar they could make it something special for Canadian fans.
I didn't mean it to sound like I didn't thing both races could co-exist. They are seven hours apart. I agree to stay off of the holidays at the glen andgo there a week or two before or after Labor Day.. I spent every fall camping at the Glen for the USGP until I was 16 years old and felt like I had part of my life ripped away when the GP left.
The months of June, July and August are festival and beach season in Western NY people are not going to give up those few weekends up to go to a race. Indycar then screwed the race by putting Toronto with in two weeks of the race. Many of the people in the Buffalo market were forced to pick a race, and it is easier to get to TO then it is to the Glen from Buffalo. I'm not sure if Indycar officials didn't get that we cross the border for dinner here or just didn't get that WGI draws from Buffalo, either way it was a poor decision. Put the race in the early fall and it will do better, just don't go too far into hockey season.
That's always been one of the major problems with the Glen. Heck, it's not exactly easy to get there from Horseheads on race day, let alone anywhere there is even a hotel you might be able to get a room. We always had a camper back in the day, but the price of fuel makes towing a camper across the appalachians 400 miles a very expensive weekend and my days of tenting for what was almost a guaranteed cool/cold and dreary weekend in the fingerlakes are long past. I've actually been playing around with a CAD program designing a poptop camper top for my old Passat wagon I still have. Something sort of like a mini westie bus for an overnight at the track where I would have a decent dry bed up off the ground but not pay the penalty of driving an RV or tugging along a trailer.
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