Jackson/McCollum amendment to cut military sponsorship of major sporting events (including #NASCAR) goes down to defeat 216-202.
Jackson/McCollum amendment to cut military sponsorship of major sporting events (including #NASCAR) goes down to defeat 216-202.
id rather be living in indy or long beach instead of charlotte, NC as there hasn't been an indycar race here since 1999
Those numbers are complete BS. No way in heck only 20 out of 24,800 with 0 signing.Originally Posted by Danny Noonan
"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt." John Adams 1826
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Maybe Junior fans are a little out of shape and didn't get that GED.
John Barnes had stated that their sponsorship situation was not about recruiting, but paying homage and assisting in re-employment, etc. for vets of the National Guard.
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^ don't tell Betty McCollum & that kingston guy that they will call you liars and DEMAND proof
What the......? How quickly some forget. Dan Wheldon drove the National Guard car in the Indy 500 2009/2010, and finished 2nd both times. I'd say he represented the National Guard quite well. Dan: "I can't tell you how proud I am to be wearing the colors of the National Guard and representing those who go into foreign lands and fight, and some gave their life for freedom." Then again, there's ALWAYS something to P & M about, eh? The constant complaining/bashing about this,that or the other thing often gets in the way of the bottom line: Dan Wheldon, the National Guard, and the respectful relationship they enjoyed. Whatever happens with The National Guard, some good things came out of their support--regardless of whose car, in whatever series, that they flew their colors.
"Noone can define the "IT" factor but, by God, she's got it!" quote by fan @ 2005 Indy 500 ----"You are now our new American hero." ROGER PENSKE @ Daytona 500 2013-----"She's magical!"~~~RICK HENDRICK @ Daytona 500 2013
glad to see they voted against it because reportedly all it would have done was eliminate sponsorship and not money from the budget. That mccollum lady is just ignorant as all the drivers backed by govt. have invited her to the races and she refused to go.
15 Graham Rahal
27 James Hinchcliffe
12 Will Power
I don't doubt that one second, but $100M+ on JR nation? Typical stupid military spending. Hell, I love a good low level fly-by, but I wonder what the National budget is just for NASCAR, let alone all of the others all across the country. We lost our fly over by the local National Guard attack helicopter company we had for years for our local 4th of July parade. First it was a deployment, then budget cuts but we could start a decent skirmish with all the equipment still in the parade.
The minimum age to express interest at their attractions was 16 I believe (since you can begin the enlistment process prior to age 18) and there was no upper age limit that I recall. I've no problem at all with the Guard's need to spend money to recruit but how, where and particualrly HOW MUCH some of it is done is questionable to say the lease. I guarantee Panther recieved not a 10th of what JR recieved over the past 5 years.
I refuse to believe that only 20 of 24,000 people they found "qualified." The NG will take LITERALLY ANYONE! Boyfriend's ex-unit (he is out now, thank goodness) had 85 pound girls who couldn't lift anything, 250 pound girls who couldn't lift anything, guys who couldn't even do 40 push-ups, people who couldn't even run a couple miles. It was pathetic. When they couldn't pass their PT test, they were moved to another unit instead of being discharged like they were supposed to be.
I also don't think they should be sponsoring anything - I am a huge fan of racing, obviously, but these are our tax dollars "at work" and they should be scaling back, if anything.
They simply aren't telling you what all the money goes towards. For instance, last I had seen, the N-G spent about $10m at Panther......... somewhere between 2-3m of that was budgeted directly to hospitality. In Dale's case you talking about $26 minus 6 for Jr. = 20. 20 minus another 6 for hospitality and your at 14. $14m for half a season is pretty much the going rate at Hendrick...... which is why they are kind of good.
We're gonna go extinct, and we're gonna do it drinking scotch and driving muscle cars.
A national correspondent this morning said the McCollum bill did not affect the National Guard. Whatever. The bill was voted down so the Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard can continue sponsoring sports.
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Maybe we can send her to Guam to investigate the Island Tip-Over situation...
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$45m.
I believe the branches of our military need to advertise, and they should be able to advertise however they see fit.
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" it only makes sense for the world's most prestigious fried chicken to pair up with the world's most prestigious watch brand" ---D. Byrd
As a federal employee, military family and an admitted fiscal conservative, I wish it was that easy. We have to account for every nickel, no penny actually thanks to the inadequate budgets the public is demanding we work under without dimininshing a dime of the free handouts. Right now, I'd be happy with something softer than 220 grit in the bathrooms, air set below 80 degrees for the first three hours of my work day, oh, maybe a telephone that works on a regular basis and to not have to scour the office for a pen once and a while. I suppose asking to replace the three other people that are supposed to be in the 4 positions I fill, working less than a ten hour day 5-6 days a week with no overtime and absolutely $#itty health benefits is too much to ask............. If we're buying and celebrating Patriotism and our military, I'm good, but I'm sure we can spend that money better actually supporting the tens of thousands of injured troops coming home to no job and bargain basement medical care. Strapping National guard logos to a mediocre third generation nascar driver driving around in 20th place in a first place car isn't my idea of effective recruiting or advertising.
Sorry if I sound rude (and OT), but as a federal employee your health benefits are equal or superior to 80% of the private sector, and your retirement benefits are superior to 90% of the private sector. And the 'doing more with less' isn't that much difference from a good portion of the private sector either.I suppose asking to replace the three other people that are supposed to be in the 4 positions I fill, working less than a ten hour day 5-6 days a week with no overtime and absolutely $#itty health benefits is too much to ask.............
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Pastor paid $29 million - not sure if it was pounds or dollars though.
If the goal of the National Guard's sponsorship was to take soldiers out for a good time and reward them, that would be perfect. Barnes does a hell of a job giving the heroes a good time. However, that money is supposed to be a recruitment tool for the National Guard. From my perspective, their initiative of hiring a hero is awesome. The part that is fishy is when you strip the glamour off of it, it's a back door into Panther recruiting additional sponsorship.
Panther receives roughly $14mil for NG and from what I can see it's enough for Panther to run 2 cars a year. He and his friends realize this is probably the best way to make money and not have to be lumped in with most of the teams and say they do not have a "buyrider".
Sorry for the rant, but I've never seen actual recruits or people interested in joining the National Guard at either Panther or Hendrick (I'm around both often). If the money that both teams receives is going to non-recruitment activation and for entertaining the troops - give it to the USO and have USO sponsored cars.
If Hildebrand can get some good finishes, they will stay. I think they will anyways
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7mil for one car would be a very competitive effort. What's their excuse for being midpack with the biggest per-car budget in the series? Too busy spending the profit margin on gold lined swimming pools?
I was a military recruiter for 5 years. most of this sounds like complete BS. first, I don't see a Major being in charge of a multi-million dollar recruitment budget. second, how do they collect the data that these guys were directed from NASCAR ads? do they tattoo their asses when they first apply? and going from 24K plus down to ZERO is totally bogus. Most guys get disqualified in the first 5 minutes. if a guy is too old or too fat, he should never even be counted as an applicant.
Well they say 24,000 contacts, but how are we counting a contact?
Is someone walking up to the booth, asking a few questions, and finding out they don't meet the requirements a 'contact'?
when you get free merch or play around with their sims you have to fill out a basic form saying you are interested in the Guard, Army, Navy. 99% of the people have no interest in joining the guard they are just filling the form out for free stuff, or to have fun, at an Airshow myself and three co-workers "Displayed Interest" and not one of us had any interest in joining.
As the one that actually HAS the benefits, I can tell you that isn't the case. If I get sick, there is no short term disability. I accumulate 10 days of sick leave a year. That's it. If I'm injured, no disability unless I file for social security. I can beg fellow wokers to donate leave. My medical coverage is mediocre. Sure, I can pay almost 50% of the premium if I want BCBS which I did have, then it's huge copays on top. Zero dental insurance coverage unlss I pay 100% of the premium and then it's maxed at guesswhat, exactly the amount of premium I pay in my pharmacy coverage is virtually worthless. Don't compare Federal employees to CONGRESS, they are vastly different. I won't see a dime of retirement until im 67. My actual pay and my ability to save money is the only good benefit I have.
Love the "Hiring our Heroes" bit. So do these guys!!
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"I think there's only so many people that can take care of themselves, and can take care of other people. And the rest of the people … they're useful in terms of compost for the whole planet, you know." - Bill Murray
Best job I ever had (benefits wise) only had 5 "sick" days per year...
Every job I've had that had medical insurance I paid 50% of the premium...
I won't get to see a dime of my "retirement" until I'm 65 unless I want to take a massive penalty (i.e., the "Gub'ment" gets to confiscate a portion of "my" retirement fund)...
Short term disability? Sure, I can purchase that if I want it...
You have it better than you think...
Insurance....it's what you buy if you want it...if your employer provides it to you, it's income they are deferring FROM you to pay the bill.
Everyone thinks they are entitled to "coverage" or perks....don't like what you have? Do something different! The Ntional Guard and Army and all the forces help you keep that right! Enjoy it
I'll give you a different perspective of that.
Boyfriend came home from Afghanistan last year. He is working on completing his Bachelor's degree. His thoughts on "Hiring our Heroes" is one that I agree with - it is nothing more than "affirmative action", which neither of us believe should be happening. If someone is qualified for a job, they should get the job. We shouldn't be handing out jobs to people who were in the military any more than we should be just handing them out to people of a certain race or gender based SOLELY on that. Also his own words - "Neither I nor anyone in my unit did anything remotely heroic, so why the hell do they keep calling us heroes? It's annoying. We did a job we signed up to do, like anyone else. That is all."
It's an insanely tough job market. If someone wants to give you one for whatever reason, my advice is to say thank you.
No health insurance plan covers disability...a separate policy must be purchased.
Ten days of sick leave is more than most people have...what would you like? A month?
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