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    Edmonton not good in the ratings department

    Ourand SBJ just tweeted 194k viewers. Iowa was 254k views which translated to .18.


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    I'd rather have 10% of the world interested in the ICS than 50% of US that NASCAR currently has

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    The only way to go from here is up!

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    Oh well, it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchme@241 View Post
    The only way to go from here is up!
    How?
    The reality is the numbers are dropping yet you call the deal 'ahead of its time'. The only end result that can be drerived from that is the series will be broke 'ahead of its time'.

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    Here come three pages of excuses detailing what else was airing at the same time.

    In all honesty in getting ready to go the NASCAR at Chicagoland I basically forgot completely there was a race at Edmonton, saw absolutely no advertising for it, mainly since I don't watch anything else on NBC Sports. Taped it and haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

    Saw two newspapers on Friday and Saturday that had nothing about it and there was a single sentence on Sunday that Helio won the pole. Edmonton more than any other North American race is invisible, maybe not as much as Japan. I would think it might be that so few racing media travel there and they don't have any other major motorsports that travel there, and there aren't any local media that are parts of syndicates to send stories out.
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    That's very disheartening.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28 View Post
    Here come three pages of excuses detailing what else was airing at the same time.

    In all honesty in getting ready to go the NASCAR at Chicagoland I basically forgot completely there was a race at Edmonton, saw absolutely no advertising for it, mainly since I don't watch anything else on NBC Sports. Taped it and haven't gotten around to watching it yet.

    Saw two newspapers on Friday and Saturday that had nothing about it and there was a single sentence on Sunday that Helio won the pole. Edmonton more than any other North American race is invisible, maybe not as much as Japan. I would think it might be that so few racing media travel there and they don't have any other major motorsports that travel there, and there aren't any local media that are parts of syndicates to send stories out.
    We need to talk more positively about the series.

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    It's all the fans fault!









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    Quote Originally Posted by IRL Ricky View Post
    That's very disheartening.



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    It shouldn't be. It's more of the same, so it's hard to be disapponted anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy-hp View Post
    It's all the fans fault!









    It's the LACK of fans that is at fault.
    .....right off of your head

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    So, I'm guessing that, 194k viewers should = a......... 0.16?


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    The racing is great but the business end - it's really hard to take the H/G family serious any longer.

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    Just as a point of comparison; the Nationwide race Sunday, per Jayski, got a 1.9 / 2.8m viewers, up 57% over last year.


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    Pathetic. Just pathetic.

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    Did we give up when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
















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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
    The racing is great but the business end - it's really hard to take the H/G family serious any longer.
    The series has gotten it's fair shake on network for a decade - typical numbers are .7 to 1.0. Buying network time doesn't help the series, it just isn't popular. Blaming the HG family is misguided, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Kimble View Post
    Blaming the HG family is misguided, IMO.
    Yeah, but it feels good to a lot of people around here. It's quite a crutch.
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    Not suprising... that week break after Toronto is a killer.

    As far as media goes, the PSU stuff sucked up all the air in the room over the weekend.

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    I wasn't interested enough to note the time the IndyCar race started Sunday, but I did realize what time the Nationwide race started because I was interested enough to already know Hornish qualified up front.

    I went to my internet source to see if any European outlet was televising the Nationwide race - no luck. But I did see once more Sky broadcasting the IndyCar race.

    So I just went to nascar.com and watched the Nationwide race on Race Buddy; poor underpowered Nationwide cars looked like snails going around Chicagoland.

    Since I have absolutely no interest in watching yet another street course event running cars that are called "Indy cars", I never checked-in with any source to find out how that deal went.

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    I've asked TSN to see if they can give me the viewership for Sunday in Canada as well. Might make it a little more relevant as the race is in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Kimble View Post
    The series has gotten it's fair shake on network for a decade - typical numbers are .7 to 1.0. Buying network time doesn't help the series, it just isn't popular. Blaming the HG family is misguided, IMO.
    Who owns the series?

    What are the numbers for the series from 1996 until now?

    You show me one consistent line moving upward in terms of revenue (made - not based on cuts), TV ratings or attendance and I will remove blame from the people that OWN it.

    Fact is if this were a public company it would have tanked years ago based on loss of $$$ and mismanagement.

    Yeah - I know it's private (family owned) but it only survived by spending millions for no ROI in return so I am sure we all get the point.

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    Yes, we do. And we really need to move on.

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    Well, Marty Snyder did tell Bryan Herta at Edmonton that "nobody is watching anyway".

    He wasn't kidding.
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    Since I have absolutely no interest in watching yet another street course event running cars that are called "Indy cars", I never checked-in with any source to find out how that deal went
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    Missed a good race din't ya.
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    This is another reason I think RB will pack it up in October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Spyro View Post
    Oh well, it is what it is.
    Is there anything that is not what it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IRL Ricky View Post
    Just as a point of comparison; the Nationwide race Sunday, per Jayski, got a 1.9 / 2.8m viewers, up 57% over last year.


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    Running on Sunday night probably helped.

    Last year's race, which was run on a Saturday night, earned a 1.4 household coverage rating.
    It's a Hoosier thing, you wouldn't understand...

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    For comparison's sake, some ratings from the 2009 Indycar Season

    Homestead 0.15
    Kentucky 0.14
    Kansas 0.15


    But the ratings for Edmonton are Randy's fault?

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    With these rating numbers, the biggest risk, IMHO, is that when NBC management gets "serious" about making NBCSN a competitive sports channel, the Indycar series will be a casualty of their new direction.

    By now the NBC managers are realising that if they broadcast a live picture of a goldfish bowl for a couple of hours they'll get more TV sets tuned in than Indycar gets. Millions of cat owners will tune in if they're leaving their cats alone for an hour or two and want to entertain them. In the winter a video feed of a burning log fire would rate higher than Indycar. Hell, a broadcast of the Chaska Fire Annual Ice Fishing Contest stands a real chance of out drawing Indycar at this point in time.

    I suspect thaat NBC is soon gonna say "We'll buy-out the current contract to free the airtime for other shows .... bye-bye Indycar, and don't let the door hit you as you leave ...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax View Post
    Who owns the series?

    What are the numbers for the series from 1996 until now?

    You show me one consistent line moving upward in terms of revenue (made - not based on cuts), TV ratings or attendance and I will remove blame from the people that OWN it.

    Fact is if this were a public company it would have tanked years ago based on loss of $$$ and mismanagement.

    Yeah - I know it's private (family owned) but it only survived by spending millions for no ROI in return so I am sure we all get the point.

    You should be glad they do own it. Some other series pizzed away 150 million of IPO money and went bankrupt.......then the same group tried again with a new name - same outcome.

    Without the HG family, there would only be F1 for any of us. [without getting into the whole ''what if TG was never born'' nonsense]

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